He did well in Boston College, Jacksonville X2 and the New York Giants. The Jags have been to THREE AFC Title games in the short span TC was either Coach or having say in Players. Won two Super Bowls with the Giants. Throughout all....He was TOUGH AS HELL on the Players. I have heard that ABSOLUTE B.S. line "The game passed him by". I remember fans and Michael Strahan and Tiki Barber saying that when he first arrived in New York. They were all smiles when they won the Super Bowl though. And yes, Vermeil was tough as hell. I recall hearing about a third of the team almost walking out of Camp in 1998. NONE of those players were on the Super Bowl 34 team. McVay is WAY too soft. It even reflects on the D too.