I don't have a subscription to The Athletic, but I can listen to the podcast using my Apple account.
To do that, click this link: [
podcasts.apple.com]
Then click 'Listen on Apple Podcasts'
Next click 'Open Link'
Finally, select 'Bears 14 Rams 34 - Matthew ...'
This podcast has some ads at the beginning that you probably don't get on The Athletic. They push the Herd mention out a bit so go to the 1:09 mark of this podcast if you just want to hear that part.
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