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Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

February 12, 2021 09:40AM
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I love it that the Rams are doing what they can to try to win a Super Bowl. Trading for Stafford increased their chances - that's pretty much all I can ask, knowing that there's no way to guarantee the results.

Personally, I would rather see the Rams try to win the Super Bowl and fail than not try at all. And the alternative? To stick with Goff after they've already decided that they can't win the SB with him? Thanks, but no thanks.

It's about increasing their chance of winning a Superbowl. Stafford increases the Rams chances.

That's just the thing..... this should have raised ALL of our expectations not just be ok with oh well they tried.....this move will be a failure if they fail to get further than where Goff already had us...Which was in a Super Bowl just two years ago

I don't think it's where Goff took us to in 2018 but where the "current" Goff would take us. Defenses already adjusted to the 2018 Rams offense so could current Jared succeed in the the current Rams offense ? I think this is where we are now.

understand that, but when watching what happened in GB its clear it wasn't about Goff who actually played well enough to keep that boat race somewhat close.

and also. isn't it up to the coach to make sure you run an offense that was successful with Goff to maintain that offense instead of scrap it??

It's not the "current" Goff, its the "current" offense which ironically wasn't our issue in our most crucial moment of 2020

So when the coach and GM start pointing the finger at the QB as the reason we haven't won the Super Bowl yet, which is fine, but when you do that and give up as much as you did to replace that issue fans and media are going to expect you to at minimum get back to the an NFC Championship ....anything less than that will be considered a failure to many.

don't get me wrong, I love the fact our coach has the cajones to pull off these moves and his desire to win it all, just better be prepare to for the pressure that comes with it, I'm sure he will be and understands the expectations many now have

I always respect your takes R2K, you know that. I just feel that McVay did try to adapt the offense to fit Goff's strengths but it didn't work. Still too many turnovers and poor decision making by Jared. I didn't see the growth I was hoping for.

I believe when pressure is applied to Jared, he doesn't react quickly enough (read what's open in the defense) which tends to lead to turnovers. Jared has a very long delivery which allows defenders to strip him as he throws. He also is not extremely mobile so he needs to have better pocket awareness.

It doesn't mean Jared isn't a good QB but that he isn't successful enough in McVay's offense. Look, I like Jared and wanted him to succeed as much as you, but I believe McVay did everything he could to help Jared (roll-outs, shortening up the passing offense, improved OL play) but Jared just did not improve IMO.

The NFL is an adaptive system. If you can't evolve your offense or defense each year (believe me, defensive coordinators adapted to the McVay 2017-2018 offense), then you're going to fail (I know you know this already). McVay adapted but Jared couldn't to the level expected by McVay so they decided to go in a different direction.

After 4 successful season2, I will go with McVay's opinion until proven otherwise. But yes, we gave up a lot and expectations will be high. I just don't see missing the Superbowl as a failure in this case.
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  PFF on the Trade

Rampage2K-1155February 11, 2021 04:08PM

  Its weird to me

Deadpool512February 11, 2021 05:13PM

  Re: Its weird to me

Coy Bacon293February 11, 2021 05:26PM

  So basically because its Cleveland North

Deadpool602February 11, 2021 05:35PM

  Re: Its weird to me

zn348February 12, 2021 01:46AM

  Re: Its weird to me

Coy Bacon171February 12, 2021 08:10AM

  Re: Its weird to me

zn218February 12, 2021 08:23AM

  Doesn't surprise me at all

NewMexicoRam228February 11, 2021 05:32PM

  Re: Its weird to me

Rampage2K-214February 11, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: Its weird to me

Anonymous User210February 11, 2021 06:26PM

  Maybe it goes back to the year he was drafted.....

roman18167February 12, 2021 04:13AM

  Agree..

sacram171February 12, 2021 08:41AM

  My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

Saguaro348February 11, 2021 10:44PM

  The team already admitted as much

merlin187February 11, 2021 10:52PM

  Re: Great QB play

BumRap246February 11, 2021 11:59PM

  +100

BumRap250February 11, 2021 11:43PM

  Re: +100

BerendsenRam229February 12, 2021 12:12AM

  No matter what we did, if we didn't win it would be a failure

Ram_Ruler332February 12, 2021 01:02AM

  Re: No matter what we did, if we didn't win it would be a failure

Rampage2K-223February 12, 2021 06:32AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

AlbaNY_Ram169February 12, 2021 03:31AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

Rams43176February 12, 2021 04:05AM

  Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Ram Fan Teacher224February 12, 2021 06:24AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Rampage2K-151February 12, 2021 06:48AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Ram Fan Teacher309February 12, 2021 08:23AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Rampage2K-197February 12, 2021 09:19AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Ram Fan Teacher197February 12, 2021 09:40AM

  Re: Very good summary...nm

dzrams296February 12, 2021 09:48AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

dzrams142February 12, 2021 09:53AM

  Re: Exactly, They don't HAVE to win the Superbowl

Rampage2K-412February 12, 2021 10:40AM

  Re: If the offense scored 30 per game...

dzrams299February 12, 2021 10:44AM

  Re: If the offense scored 30 per game...

Rampage2K-151February 12, 2021 10:51AM

  Re: Well, on that point...

dzrams144February 12, 2021 10:56AM

  My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rampage2K-185February 12, 2021 06:41AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rams43158February 12, 2021 06:47AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rampage2K-166February 12, 2021 06:52AM

  R2K I don't think we can go..

sstrams163February 12, 2021 06:57AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rams43199February 12, 2021 06:57AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rampage2K-165February 12, 2021 07:03AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rams43162February 12, 2021 07:23AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

Rampage2K-328February 12, 2021 07:38AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

AlbaNY_Ram143February 12, 2021 10:20AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

zn310February 12, 2021 11:15AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure...I share that opinion

VANRAM243February 12, 2021 09:57AM

  Oh c'mon. A ring or failure isn't reasonable.

RockRam317February 12, 2021 11:02AM

  Re: Oh c'mon. A ring or failure isn't reasonable.

Rampage2K-283February 12, 2021 02:15PM

  Well, AD and Ramsey sure couldn't have hurt ! (nm)

RockRam145February 13, 2021 04:20AM

  Re: Agreed

AlbaNY_Ram167February 12, 2021 02:15PM

  Re: Agreed

Rampage2K-174February 12, 2021 02:26PM

  I get it. But those things you mentioned aren't "excuses"

RockRam243February 13, 2021 04:33AM

  Re: Agreed

AlbaNY_Ram164February 13, 2021 04:39AM

  Great Post Albany!

Ram Fan Teacher285February 13, 2021 06:51AM

  Re: Agreed

Rampage2K-281February 13, 2021 07:41AM

  Re: Agreed

AlbaNY_Ram257February 13, 2021 09:17AM

  That is an AWESOME line right there, R2K!!

Saguaro221February 13, 2021 11:04AM

  I prefer to belly up to the bar, anything else is too much work

Deadpool151February 13, 2021 11:43AM

  :) heheh. nm.

Saguaro178February 13, 2021 01:07PM

  Re: I prefer to belly up to the bar, anything else is too much work

Ram Fan Teacher163February 13, 2021 03:21PM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

dzrams178February 12, 2021 07:50AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

zn152February 13, 2021 08:43AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

dzrams172February 13, 2021 06:14PM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

KRams159February 13, 2021 08:16AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

Coy Bacon153February 13, 2021 08:43AM

  Re: My opinion: Rams have to get a ring or this is a failure.

Drew2839138February 13, 2021 02:26PM

  Pretty even keeled and pragmatic analysis

RockRam295February 12, 2021 03:34AM