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Re: PFF ranking is bogus

January 21, 2021 10:31AM
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No way the Rams OL is #3. Maybe the way PFF grades it is the problem. Just like the way they grade Ramsey as no where near the top CB.

The Rams are clearly weak in the interior in pass pro. Blythe gets overpowered constantly against anyone good.

Football Outsiders had the Rams OL ranked around #8 in DVOA.

Also, how PFF grades could be a problem but there are some things such as pressures allowed and sacks given up that are hard to get wrong. The Rams had a top 10 OL in total pressures allowed.

It's really hard to make an argument that it was a bad OL and in fact I haven't seen anyone do that. The biggest and most accurate charge is that they were inconsistent.

Not just inconsistent, in several key games they a huge problem. Green Bay game being one of them. Calling them "inconsistent" whitewashes the extent to which they were a problem against defenses equipped to challenge them.

The issue was teams that could physically dominate the interior OL (Whitworth missing games didn't help).

In terms of the PFF ranking, it makes no sense. I borrowed this from a post from elsewhere put up by a PFF subscriber. Notice--Blythe is 26th in pass blocking among 32 centers. Hav is 45th pass blocking among 64 OTs (I assume they don't do left and right) yet they rank him as the 15th OT. There is no Rams OL except Whitworth that is any higher than 31st at pass blocking.

And that according to them adds up to a top 3 OL?


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  POLL: What can we get for Goff?

max1322January 20, 2021 05:33AM

  Would the Colts take Goff?

BigGame81496January 20, 2021 05:41AM

  Re: Would the Colts take Goff?

max299January 20, 2021 05:49AM

  Stafford will be a Colt

den-the-coach243January 20, 2021 05:54AM

  Why would Detroit get rid of Stafford?

BigGame81640January 20, 2021 06:12AM

  I think he wants out

Speed_Kills358January 20, 2021 06:32AM

  Re: I'm thinking Dak Prescott!

oldschoolramfan342January 20, 2021 06:16AM

  Re: I'm thinking Dak Prescott!

AlbaNY_Ram219January 20, 2021 06:25AM

  just no way Dallas does that

Speed_Kills299January 20, 2021 06:34AM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

oldschoolramfan274January 20, 2021 07:39AM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

Rams43222January 20, 2021 07:42AM

  Re: Bingo! (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram380January 20, 2021 11:11AM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

max285January 20, 2021 11:24AM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

moklerman283January 20, 2021 11:52AM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

max195January 20, 2021 12:00PM

  if they could find one in the 2nd round....

ferragamo79259January 20, 2021 04:19PM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

Ekern55184January 21, 2021 03:37PM

  Re: Dallas has not taken care of Dak!

moklerman186January 21, 2021 04:09PM

  Re: Would the Colts take Goff?

Ram Fan Teacher275January 20, 2021 06:01AM

  Re: Would the Colts take Goff?

pmill66218January 21, 2021 10:24AM

  yeah and if they can somehow work it out

Speed_Kills217January 20, 2021 06:31AM

  I'd get him a WR that take the top off a D and...

DaJudge258January 20, 2021 06:29AM

  If there was a market for Bradford there should be for Goff

Speed_Kills232January 20, 2021 06:57AM

  Re: If there was a market for Bradford there should be for Goff

max270January 20, 2021 08:23AM

  Less than 40% want to keep him

max414January 20, 2021 10:40AM

  I suspect that the Rams would have to offer Goff plus picks

RockRam562January 20, 2021 11:01AM

  Re: I suspect that the Rams would have to offer Goff plus picks

max356January 20, 2021 11:10AM

  Remember what Goff cost us?

max635January 20, 2021 03:58PM

  wow

Speed_Kills364January 20, 2021 04:38PM

  Re: wow

max328January 20, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: wow

Rampage2K-231January 20, 2021 06:20PM

  Re: wow

oldschoolramfan226January 21, 2021 05:30AM

  Re: wow

Speed_Kills201January 21, 2021 05:51AM

  Re: wow

max300January 21, 2021 07:09AM

  Really they need to do that regardless of Goff....

roman18196January 21, 2021 07:17AM

  yup nm

Speed_Kills317January 21, 2021 07:56AM

  Re: Really they need to do that regardless of Goff....

Ekern55198January 21, 2021 03:55PM

  IMO after the last two years

Speed_Kills572January 22, 2021 11:44AM

  Re: wow

Rams43222January 21, 2021 07:31AM

  I think an upgrade at OC needs to happen regardless

Speed_Kills203January 21, 2021 07:53AM

  Re: I think an upgrade at OC needs to happen regardless

Rams43175January 21, 2021 08:00AM

  Re: I think an upgrade at OC needs to happen regardless

3030143January 21, 2021 10:33AM

  I posted an article on 2021 FAs last week

Speed_Kills338January 21, 2021 10:38AM

  I guess I don't see that as affordable with our cap (nm)

3030191January 21, 2021 10:50AM

  ah gotcha

Speed_Kills175January 21, 2021 12:38PM

  Re: wow

moklerman437January 21, 2021 09:44AM

  Re: wow

Ekern55239January 21, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: wow

Rams43257January 21, 2021 06:55AM

  Re: wow

Rampage2K-248January 21, 2021 07:17AM

  Re: wow

Rams43175January 21, 2021 07:55AM

  Re: wow

Rampage2K-198January 21, 2021 08:42AM

  Re: wow

oldschoolramfan184January 21, 2021 09:36AM

  Re: wow

Rams43219January 21, 2021 09:57AM

  Re: wow

Rampage2K-187January 21, 2021 10:03AM

  PFF ranking is bogus

max200January 21, 2021 08:25AM

  Re: PFF ranking is bogus

dzrams449January 21, 2021 08:30AM

  Re: PFF ranking is bogus

zn169January 21, 2021 10:31AM

  Re: PFF ranking is bogus

dzrams169January 21, 2021 11:12AM

  Re: PFF ranking is bogus

zn209January 21, 2021 01:15PM

  Re: PFF ranking is bogus

dzrams353January 21, 2021 01:31PM

  No actually Goff beat that a couple of times

zn201January 21, 2021 04:05PM

  Re: No actually Goff beat that a couple of times

dzrams226January 22, 2021 07:00AM

  the stats sites are wrong about the OL cause maybe stats sites can't assess OLs

zn501January 22, 2021 05:50PM

  to clarify

zn217January 23, 2021 06:58PM

  Re: to clarify

dzrams265January 23, 2021 07:18PM

  Re: to clarify

zn170January 23, 2021 07:23PM

  That and the line clearly played worse when Awhit went down

Speed_Kills147January 21, 2021 10:36AM

  But when they were ranked 31st last year that was accurate?

Speed_Kills171January 21, 2021 10:31AM

  Re: wow

dzrams211January 21, 2021 07:27AM

  A burner WR and a stud OC would do wonders

stlramz179January 22, 2021 11:41AM

  Re: Remember what Goff cost us?

pmill66263January 21, 2021 12:15PM

  Remember what Everett cost us?

Rams Junkie189January 21, 2021 08:51PM

  you get 10.5 wins per season with Goff and McVay....

JoeMad232January 21, 2021 08:11AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

oldschoolramfan187January 21, 2021 09:43AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

Rams43242January 21, 2021 10:02AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

Rampage2K-304January 21, 2021 10:06AM

  Re: That's exactly my point...

oldschoolramfan175January 21, 2021 10:14AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

Rams43191January 21, 2021 10:20AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

Rampage2K-183January 21, 2021 10:41AM

  Re: I have no idea why.

Rams43198January 21, 2021 10:57AM

  And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Speed_Kills154January 21, 2021 10:44AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rampage2K-152January 21, 2021 10:49AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rams43261January 21, 2021 11:01AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rampage2K-215January 21, 2021 11:06AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rams43198January 21, 2021 11:11AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rampage2K-470January 21, 2021 11:13AM

  Re: And even if you do look at the Green Bay game

Rams43157January 21, 2021 11:18AM

  Yeah this is especially true these days nm

Speed_Kills222January 21, 2021 11:08AM

  let me know how many QBs could win playoff game in GB and NO

JoeMad322January 21, 2021 12:08PM

  Re: let me know how many QBs could win playoff game in GB and NO

Speed_Kills652January 21, 2021 01:09PM

  Re: let me know how many QBs could win playoff game in GB and NO

Rampage2K-211January 21, 2021 01:27PM

  Re: let me know how many QBs could win playoff game in GB and NO

JoeMad443January 21, 2021 01:32PM

  Joe

Speed_Kills201January 21, 2021 01:38PM

  perhaps McVay is unhappy because

JoeMad225January 21, 2021 01:49PM

  Re: Reports of his unhappiness were BEFORE they were eliminated...nm

dzrams206January 21, 2021 02:09PM

  agreed

zn169January 21, 2021 03:55PM

  I'll do it

Drew2839208January 21, 2021 01:40PM

  lol I’m open for ideas

Speed_Kills288January 21, 2021 03:05PM

  And that says something, doesn't it?

Drew2839164January 21, 2021 03:29PM

  Goff's Trade value? Maybe a late #1 or a 2nd and 3rd rounder

Anonymous User222January 21, 2021 04:44PM

  IF McVay thinks Goff is limiting him I'd say a round 2 pick at best

merlin189January 23, 2021 10:47AM

  good post both of you

Speed_Kills164January 23, 2021 11:16AM

  Re: Here's another consideration to get more compensation...

dzrams184January 23, 2021 12:08PM

  Would you be terribly offended...

JamesJM316January 23, 2021 12:16PM

  Re: Not at all...

dzrams164January 23, 2021 12:25PM

  how’s it going so far? lol

Speed_Kills240January 23, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: good post both of you

moklerman416January 23, 2021 02:39PM