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PHDram
if you dont like goff fine, so be it. but to suggest that he has no upside is ridiculous. the nfl is littered with qbs who blossom after 5 years with the most recent example being Ryan Tannehill. and just to name a few hall of famers....Drew Brees was average and injury prone in SD. Steve young completely sucked until his 5th year. and Brett Favre (after being traded) hit his stride in his 5th year.
further this reading body language stuff is ridiculous. people said the same thing during his rookie season. Goff, like Montana was, is unflappable. He never gets to high or to low. Its just who he is. Its on his scouting report for crying out loud. To sit there and say he doesnt care is absolutely reckless and disingenuous.
if you dont like him because he played poorly fine. but lets not make stuff up to fit some imaginative narrative.
You seem to be the one making things up though. Roman didn't state that Goff doesn't care, he said that's what it looks like and explained his reasoning.
Ryan Tannehill didn't blossom after year 5. He went to a new level but he'd played solid to good football even up to his last year in Miami but he was usually on bad teams. Which is a stark contrast to Goff. Goff has been on good teams with good coaching since McVay came along. It's not like he's going to find a better situation and change of scenery type of situation that allows him to improve his game to the next level.
Brees was a pro-bowler in his 3rd year starting for SD which was his 4th year overall. It didn't take him 5 years and he wasn't average.
Steve Young was on arguably the worst franchise ever. He didn't struggle under decent circumstances and then blossom because something clicked. When he went to SF, he played well pretty much any chance he got and his first year as a starter he led the league in passer rating and his first full year as starter he did so again.
I'm not even sure what you're thinking with Brett Favre. He was a pro-bowler 4 out of his first 5 years in GB and he started there during the year that he was traded. He was a pro-bowler from the very beginning as a starter.
I guess you could kind of say that Tannehill is comparable in terms of career path but that's stretching it. None of the others remotely resemble what Goff has done. Those HOF'ers didn't struggle with consistency for 5 years and then have the proverbial switch flip. Goff is looking a lot more like Scott Mitchell or Daunte Culpepper or Marcus Mariota.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2020 05:37AM by moklerman.
