June 29, 2020 06:21AM
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JimYoungblood53
as much as you and me.

But off the top of my head---yeah, Bradford did more with less FOR THAT SPAN---that's all it is saying
Goff's forst season and a half under McVay was far, far superior to anything Bradford has done

the point seems to be the REGRESSION of Goff after the KC game...more fumbles, more picks
fewer wins, more losses, all with better line and better receivers and so one that Bradford ever had

so, maybe it takes some brainpower to read the thing and get the point---maybe instead of
a simple reaction


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ferragamo79
your stats are off

and comparing Bradford to Goff is ridiculous


I don't agree that Goff's OL was always better than what Bradford had, though it depends on when you're talking about. It was very up and down over the years.

2010: Rams OL was relatively healthy but did not have great talent. It included Smith at ROT and Bell, Brown, & Goldberg on the interior.

2011: OL a train wreck in one of the Rams worst injury seasons. Only Dahl played the whole season.

2012: first half (8 games): another OL injury train wreck. Several different guys played LOT. The only position that did not need to start injury replacements in this stretch was ROT. It was virtually a different OL line-up each week.

2012: second half, through most of 2013: relatively healthy OL for the 15 games SB played in this stretch...fwiw PFF ranked the Rams 2013 OL 13th. Signing of Long helped--he had a good year in 2013 until hurt near the end.

2016: a healthy but overmatched OL that included Robinson, Barnes, and Wichman.

2017-first half of 2018: a healthy and well-used OL.

2018, 2nd half: the Rams OL got shakier, with Sullivan eroding and Blythe more exposed. It got heavily challenged by teams with strong fronts.

2019, first 9 games: the 2 OTs started out shaky, the 2 newbies on the inside did too. They missed Saffold.

2019, last 7 games: got by pretty well with 3 inexperienced injury replacements, AW got back to form--an inconsistent group but it grew and was capable of being solid.

IMO the best OLs in these years was 1st the 2017 OL, and 2nd the 2013 OL.

In terms of just comparing the qbs and leaving the OL out of it, Goff is a lot more instinctive than Bradford. So yeah no one ranks SB over JG. They were 9-7 in 2019 partly because of Goff, in spite of his inconsistency behind a shaky OL. Bradford would not have been as good under those conditions.

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  4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

Rams431038June 22, 2020 06:41AM

  Good stuff there

NewMexicoRam312June 22, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

spagsbacker466June 22, 2020 07:40AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

nicecatchellard436June 22, 2020 07:57AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

Rampage2K-483June 22, 2020 11:42AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

nicecatchellard308June 22, 2020 01:48PM

  have pass protection

ferragamo79376June 28, 2020 02:18PM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

zn380June 22, 2020 12:58PM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

AlbaNY_Ram436June 22, 2020 08:29AM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

zn389June 22, 2020 08:52AM

  Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

RockRam348June 22, 2020 09:11AM

  Re: Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

AlbaNY_Ram318June 22, 2020 09:29AM

  Re: Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

zn498June 22, 2020 09:51AM

  I'm saying Goff is NOT check down Charlie

RockRam295June 22, 2020 10:13AM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

Scottish Ram327June 22, 2020 10:28AM

  And a better performing O line helps out all around

NewMexicoRam262June 22, 2020 11:28AM

  Wow, as of 10/14/2019 Attachments

JimYoungblood53625June 28, 2020 11:37AM

  Goff needs to step it up and play like his forst 27 games under McVay Attachments

JimYoungblood53589June 28, 2020 11:52AM

  Re: Goff needs to step it up and play like his forst 27 games under McVay

SoCalRAMatic262June 28, 2020 12:54PM

  You do that

JimYoungblood53237June 28, 2020 07:11PM

  need to watch the games to realize

ferragamo79242June 28, 2020 01:08PM

  Not my stats---and whoever wrote it probably watches

JimYoungblood53432June 28, 2020 07:07PM

  Re: Not my stats---and whoever wrote it probably watches

zn325June 29, 2020 06:21AM

  Talent and was talking aboit the comparitave charts

JimYoungblood53326June 29, 2020 09:08AM

  Re: Talent and was talking aboit the comparitave charts

zn271June 30, 2020 04:46AM

  pffft.

JimYoungblood53320June 30, 2020 05:11PM

  I was talking about the OL

zn198June 30, 2020 08:35PM

  but those aren't his last 14 games

ferragamo79244June 28, 2020 01:07PM

  I think it was from last October---it was his last 14 at the time

JimYoungblood53201June 28, 2020 07:04PM

  he needs to throw less...

LMU93309June 22, 2020 10:30AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

nicecatchellard479June 22, 2020 10:48AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

LMU93408June 22, 2020 11:11AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

zn226June 22, 2020 01:52PM

  He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

roman18374June 22, 2020 11:19AM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard497June 22, 2020 11:36AM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

RamsfanDave605June 22, 2020 01:16PM

  I think it's simpler than that

zn364June 22, 2020 01:56PM

  solid OL and running game

ferragamo79294June 22, 2020 02:05PM

  +1 (nm)

zn269June 22, 2020 03:17PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

zn314June 22, 2020 03:46PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

Rampage2K-340June 22, 2020 04:02PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

waterfield238June 22, 2020 04:45PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard243June 23, 2020 04:51PM

  you're off topic

zn335June 23, 2020 05:16PM

  Re: you're off topic

nicecatchellard376June 24, 2020 04:33AM

  please hear the actual point being made.

zn310June 24, 2020 06:39AM

  Re: please hear the actual point being made.

nicecatchellard270June 24, 2020 07:02AM

  nope

zn261June 24, 2020 07:22AM

  Re: nope

nicecatchellard311June 24, 2020 07:38AM

  again not replying to the actual point

zn245June 24, 2020 07:54AM

  Re: again not replying to the actual point

nicecatchellard233June 24, 2020 08:11AM

  nope

zn215June 24, 2020 12:12PM

  Re: again not replying to the actual point

Rampage2K-381June 27, 2020 10:55AM

  I’m gonna jump in here with my 2 cents...

Rams43676June 24, 2020 08:12AM

  Re: I’m gonna jump in here with my 2 cents...

nicecatchellard526June 24, 2020 08:29AM

  The Gurley deficit

Suh-weet!219June 26, 2020 12:43PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

Rampage2K-358June 23, 2020 07:14PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard584June 24, 2020 04:42AM