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Coaches kid = Success?

July 04, 2026 02:09PM
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alyoshamucci
And he could have started somewhere else, he chose to stay at Alabama.

The mental aspect is why we drafted him. Played hurt, so add toughness, loyalty.

When a player is a coach's kid, I know two things. He out works everyone, and he can handle mental pressure. For me he projects in between Mac Jones (who is actually pretty good) and Drake Maye (who is also actually pretty good, and a coach's kid).

"Coach's kid" is the first thing I put next to a player's name if they are one. No otyer single thing says as much about the QB they'll become.

I get what you are saying and agree that coaches kids usually are better "prepared" but by no means does it guarantee success. There are plenty of coaches kids who just didn't have enough talent to make it.

If was only that simple. lol

I would imagine the amount of "non coaches kids" that make it in the NFL outnumber the ones that are coaches kids and I doubt its even close.

Some would say that having an outstanding college career and winning the Heisman and Championships might be a better indicator but even those dudes aren't always successful either. Just look no further than Bennett.

As a matter of fact, 2 thirds of Heisman winning QB's were busts at the NFL level...

AI Overview

Out of the 39 quarterbacks who have won the Heisman Trophy, only about a third are widely considered "successful" in the NFL, though only a handful reached elite, first-ballot Hall of Fame status.Success is subjective, but the quarterbacks who carved out strong, winning, or long-standing NFL careers can be separated into three main tiers:

The Elite & Championship TierThese players became Pro Bowlers, league MVPs, and/or won Super Bowls as starting quarterbacks.

Roger Staubach (1963): 2-time Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl VI MVP, and the only first-ballot Hall of Famer to win a Heisman.

Cam Newton (2010): 3-time Pro Bowler, 2015 NFL MVP, and led the Panthers to Super Bowl 50.Lamar Jackson (2016): 2-time NFL MVP, 3-time All-Pro, and a dominant dual-threat star.

Jim Plunkett (1970): 2-time Super Bowl Champion with the Raiders.Solid & Notable NFL StartersThese quarterbacks had productive, long-term careers as starters or playoff regulars, and many earned Pro Bowl nods.

Carson Palmer (2002): 3-time Pro Bowler with over 46,000 career passing yards.

Vinny Testaverde (1986): 2-time Pro Bowler who played 21 seasons and threw for over 46,000 yards.Baker Mayfield (2017): 1st overall pick who has led multiple franchises to the playoffs and secured Pro Bowl honors.

Steve Spurrier (1966): 10-year NFL career, mostly as a backup, but is included here for a solid pro stint and his later legendary coaching career.

Doug Flutie (1984): Carved out a memorable "never give up" NFL career with the Bills and Patriots after dominating the CFL.

Solid Longevity & Other Success Stories...

These Heisman-winning QBs played 10+ seasons in the NFL, often transitioning to consistent, valuable backup roles, team leaders, or situational starters.Jameis Winston (2013)Marcus Mariota (2014)

Nearly two-thirds of the Heisman-winning QBs either busted at the professional level, struggled to transition their college playbooks to the NFL, or were strictly career backups/practice squad players (e.g., Andre Ware, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Johnny Manziel).



how many national champion qb's were successful in the NFL? Only 4 have won a SB too.

AI Overview

Many college national champion quarterbacks were drafted, but only 4 became starting NFL quarterbacks who successfully won a Super Bowl.

The exclusive group of signal-callers to win both a college national championship and a Super Bowl as a primary starter include:

Joe Namath (Alabama 1964; Super Bowl III with the NY Jets)

Joe Montana (Notre Dame 1977; Super Bowls XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV with the San Francisco 49ers)

Ken Stabler (Alabama 1964; Super Bowl XI with the Oakland Raiders)

Jalen Hurts (Alabama 2017; Super Bowl LVII appearance, though he did not win the pro title)

While there are others who won both titles (like Roger Staubach at Navy and Russell Wilson at Wisconsin), they generally only won the Super Bowl as a starter or were standout pros, fitting distinct but separate champion achievements. Furthermore, many other college title-winning QBs—such as Vince Young (Texas) and Matt Leinart (USC)—ultimately struggled to find lasting success in the NFL.

The bottom line for me is that there is no guarantee that a QB will be successful no matter how there college career went or regardless of whether or not their father was a coach. It's a crap shoot. lol



#HelmetHornsMatter

“Well, the color is good, I like the metallic blue,” Youngblood recently said while laughing, via NFL Journal. “The horn is terrible. It looks like a ‘C.’ When I first saw it on the logo I honestly thought it was a Charger logo.

“Now when I see it on the helmet, it just isn’t a ram horn. There is no distinct curl like a mature ram horn. I don’t know how the Rams could get that wrong. That is your symbol and it has been for what? Seventy years or more? Longer than I have been alive? It’s just not us, it’s not the Rams.”---Mr. Ram Jack Youngblood


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  NFL quarterbacks drafted in the first round with fewer than 20 career college starts

Ramsdude798July 04, 2026 10:02AM

  Re: NFL quarterbacks drafted in the first round with fewer than 20 career college starts

303099July 04, 2026 10:58AM

  Exactly.....

ScRAM68July 04, 2026 11:11AM

  yes, that's why Simpson will sit for 2-3 years..

SunTzu_vs_Camus50July 05, 2026 08:04AM

  Re: yes, that's why Simpson will sit for 2-3 years..

303038July 05, 2026 11:39AM

  Agreed

Ramsdude52July 04, 2026 11:19AM

  None of them were coach's kids ...

alyoshamucci100July 04, 2026 01:32PM

  Nailed it...

ScRAM69July 04, 2026 01:36PM

  Coaches kid = Success?

Ramsdude64July 04, 2026 02:09PM

  Good point....

stlramz44July 04, 2026 02:37PM

  True. But his physical talent is there as well.

RockRam66July 05, 2026 12:46AM

  Re: True. But his physical talent is there as well.

Killrazor44July 05, 2026 01:24AM

  The McVay factor.

Leoram41July 05, 2026 04:00AM

  Re: True. But his physical talent is there as well.

MalibuRam32July 05, 2026 01:16PM

  Great post!

AlbaNY_Ram46July 05, 2026 04:00AM

  You seem to be ignoring the Rams alternative to drafting Simpson…

Rams_4390July 05, 2026 04:03AM

  Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

Ramsdude59July 05, 2026 04:23AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43 Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram58July 05, 2026 04:47AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

Ramsdude51July 05, 2026 05:02AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

AlbaNY_Ram47July 05, 2026 05:47AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

Ramsdude40July 05, 2026 06:29AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

AlbaNY_Ram38July 05, 2026 04:38PM

  The icing on the cake

AlbaNY_Ram38July 06, 2026 02:13AM

  Re: Nope, not ignoring that at all 43

Ramsdude29July 06, 2026 03:27AM

  Are you trolling??

1st Rounder63July 05, 2026 11:06AM

  Precisely and here's the truth

merlin104July 05, 2026 10:08AM

  Agree with all of that

Ramsdude42July 05, 2026 11:20AM

  Re: your question on Simpson vs Bennett

merlin45July 05, 2026 03:18PM

  Good post...(NM)

PaulButcher5986July 05, 2026 11:33AM

  More TRUTH

1st Rounder65July 05, 2026 12:55PM

  There's no use

ScRAM46July 05, 2026 01:27PM

  Milroe is likely a QB2 at the NFL level

merlin50July 05, 2026 03:23PM

  Huh?

1st Rounder54July 05, 2026 03:52PM

  Re: Huh?

merlin43July 05, 2026 06:18PM

  Re: Huh?

1st Rounder50July 05, 2026 08:16PM

  DeBoer's offense favors Simpson's skill set over that of Milroe

merlin37July 07, 2026 12:34PM

  Re: DeBoer's offense favors Simpson's skill set over that of Milroe

MalibuRam32July 07, 2026 02:49PM

  It would have been nice to see him under Cristobal

merlin30July 07, 2026 06:37PM

  Re: It would have been nice to see him under Cristobal

MalibuRam28July 07, 2026 06:45PM

  Huh Again??

1st Rounder41July 07, 2026 03:01PM

  Let me help you out with a direct quote

merlin35July 07, 2026 06:34PM

  Thank you

1st Rounder35July 08, 2026 03:06AM

  Re: Precisely and here's the truth

GroundPounder57July 05, 2026 01:45PM

  No. The Real Difference

1st Rounder62July 05, 2026 03:56PM