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alyoshamucci
And he could have started somewhere else, he chose to stay at Alabama.
The mental aspect is why we drafted him. Played hurt, so add toughness, loyalty.
When a player is a coach's kid, I know two things. He out works everyone, and he can handle mental pressure. For me he projects in between Mac Jones (who is actually pretty good) and Drake Maye (who is also actually pretty good, and a coach's kid).
"Coach's kid" is the first thing I put next to a player's name if they are one. No otyer single thing says as much about the QB they'll become.
I get what you are saying and agree that coaches kids usually are better "prepared" but by no means does it guarantee success. There are plenty of coaches kids who just didn't have enough talent to make it.
If was only that simple. lol
I would imagine the amount of "non coaches kids" that make it in the NFL outnumber the ones that are coaches kids and I doubt its even close.
Some would say that having an outstanding college career and winning the Heisman and Championships might be a better indicator but even those dudes aren't always successful either. Just look no further than Bennett.
As a matter of fact, 2 thirds of Heisman winning QB's were busts at the NFL level...
AI Overview
Out of the 39 quarterbacks who have won the Heisman Trophy, only about a third are widely considered "successful" in the NFL, though only a handful reached elite, first-ballot Hall of Fame status.Success is subjective, but the quarterbacks who carved out strong, winning, or long-standing NFL careers can be separated into three main tiers:
The Elite & Championship TierThese players became Pro Bowlers, league MVPs, and/or won Super Bowls as starting quarterbacks.
Roger Staubach (1963): 2-time Super Bowl Champion, Super Bowl VI MVP, and the only first-ballot Hall of Famer to win a Heisman.
Cam Newton (2010): 3-time Pro Bowler, 2015 NFL MVP, and led the Panthers to Super Bowl 50.Lamar Jackson (2016): 2-time NFL MVP, 3-time All-Pro, and a dominant dual-threat star.
Jim Plunkett (1970): 2-time Super Bowl Champion with the Raiders.Solid & Notable NFL StartersThese quarterbacks had productive, long-term careers as starters or playoff regulars, and many earned Pro Bowl nods.
Carson Palmer (2002): 3-time Pro Bowler with over 46,000 career passing yards.
Vinny Testaverde (1986): 2-time Pro Bowler who played 21 seasons and threw for over 46,000 yards.Baker Mayfield (2017): 1st overall pick who has led multiple franchises to the playoffs and secured Pro Bowl honors.
Steve Spurrier (1966): 10-year NFL career, mostly as a backup, but is included here for a solid pro stint and his later legendary coaching career.
Doug Flutie (1984): Carved out a memorable "never give up" NFL career with the Bills and Patriots after dominating the CFL.
Solid Longevity & Other Success Stories...
These Heisman-winning QBs played 10+ seasons in the NFL, often transitioning to consistent, valuable backup roles, team leaders, or situational starters.Jameis Winston (2013)Marcus Mariota (2014)
Nearly two-thirds of the Heisman-winning QBs either busted at the professional level, struggled to transition their college playbooks to the NFL, or were strictly career backups/practice squad players (e.g., Andre Ware, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Johnny Manziel).
how many national champion qb's were successful in the NFL? Only 4 have won a SB too.
AI Overview
Many college national champion quarterbacks were drafted, but only 4 became starting NFL quarterbacks who successfully won a Super Bowl.
The exclusive group of signal-callers to win both a college national championship and a Super Bowl as a primary starter include:
Joe Namath (Alabama 1964; Super Bowl III with the NY Jets)
Joe Montana (Notre Dame 1977; Super Bowls XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV with the San Francisco 49ers)
Ken Stabler (Alabama 1964; Super Bowl XI with the Oakland Raiders)
Jalen Hurts (Alabama 2017; Super Bowl LVII appearance, though he did not win the pro title)
While there are others who won both titles (like Roger Staubach at Navy and Russell Wilson at Wisconsin), they generally only won the Super Bowl as a starter or were standout pros, fitting distinct but separate champion achievements. Furthermore, many other college title-winning QBs—such as Vince Young (Texas) and Matt Leinart (USC)—ultimately struggled to find lasting success in the NFL.
The bottom line for me is that there is no guarantee that a QB will be successful no matter how there college career went or regardless of whether or not their father was a coach. It's a crap shoot. lol
#HelmetHornsMatter
“Well, the color is good, I like the metallic blue,” Youngblood recently said while laughing, via NFL Journal. “The horn is terrible. It looks like a ‘C.’ When I first saw it on the logo I honestly thought it was a Charger logo.
“Now when I see it on the helmet, it just isn’t a ram horn. There is no distinct curl like a mature ram horn. I don’t know how the Rams could get that wrong. That is your symbol and it has been for what? Seventy years or more? Longer than I have been alive? It’s just not us, it’s not the Rams.”---Mr. Ram Jack Youngblood