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Re: Stop with the rationalization

July 05, 2026 10:18AM
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Leoram
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merlin
Some players are in fact fumblers. Williams had a clear propensity to fumble two years ago but he fixed it.

If you want to sit back and act like you're a better fan because you can make excuses for players hey, knock yourself out. But don't preach that nonsense to me. I'm not buying it.

Career fumble percentages per carry:

Tony Dorsett 3%
Franco Harris 3%
Walter Payton 2.2%
Eric Dickerson 2.6%
OJ Simpson 2.5%
Marcus Allen 2.1%

Kyren Williams 1.1%

When do facts actually matter?

Kyren is not a chronic fumbler. Case closed! Some just cannot let go of their narratives.

Kyren is not in the class of any of those RBs. He is more of a RBBC type back, a lead back certainly in the stable, but he is not an elite back. What this means is you're not going to put up with a high fumble rate (like Dickerson had) with him. In fact if he were to continue his rate of somewhere around 1.5 going off memory in 2024, if that rate had continued into last season, if he had not shown improvement which I credited him for showing in my post, we would probably have seen Corum transition into more of a lead role in that backfield.

Guy like Kyren has to be secure with the ball. Period.
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  RE: Kyren the fumbler

Leoram554July 02, 2026 10:00AM

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Killrazor80July 02, 2026 10:13AM

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Leoram53July 02, 2026 11:02AM

  About X Smith

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Ramsdude29July 03, 2026 09:34AM

  Re: About X Smith Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram36July 04, 2026 04:58AM

  Last year was derailed by freak plays

stlramz34July 04, 2026 02:35PM

  good points

21Dog29July 04, 2026 03:34PM

  His TO's were happening at the worst times

Ramsdude61July 02, 2026 10:36AM

  I was one of those guys..

sstrams43July 03, 2026 06:53AM

  Fumbles cannot be blown out of proportion

merlin50July 03, 2026 08:44PM

  Re: Fumbles cannot be blown out of proportion

Leoram47July 04, 2026 02:33AM

  Stop with the rationalization

merlin49July 04, 2026 09:07AM

  I dont think Leo is doing that

Speed_Kills34July 04, 2026 03:35PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram37July 04, 2026 05:59PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

merlin28July 05, 2026 10:18AM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram31July 05, 2026 12:47PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

merlin31July 05, 2026 03:30PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram30July 05, 2026 05:23PM

  Hey Merlin

Speed_Kills36July 07, 2026 05:52AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

MalibuRam29July 07, 2026 07:31AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

AlbaNY_Ram31July 07, 2026 08:32AM

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MalibuRam24July 07, 2026 09:24AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

AlbaNY_Ram26July 07, 2026 09:42AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

MalibuRam25July 07, 2026 09:55AM

  Adams

Leoram29July 07, 2026 04:57PM

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MalibuRam22July 07, 2026 06:20PM

  Re: Adams

Leoram23July 08, 2026 02:38AM

  Disagreement in these things are fine

merlin37July 07, 2026 09:25AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

Old Goat30July 07, 2026 12:24PM

  Re: RE: Kyren the fumbler

sfbayram31July 05, 2026 10:19AM

  Is Kyren Williams an "elite" RB?

Ramsdude32July 07, 2026 01:03PM