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Re: Fumbles cannot be blown out of proportion

July 04, 2026 02:33AM
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merlin
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Leoram
This time last year the debate raged with a large contingent so sure he was beyond redemption. His fumble rate was blown out of proportion due to timing and a short sample size that did not include the rest of his career.

I am so glad that has been put largely to rest. So many refused to listen to reason. Of course, I do not expect them to admit it now. Surely there will be more chicken little narratives to come, but for now I am enjoying the calm waters.

The criticism he received was fair and deserved.

But he deserves all the credit for working hard to fix that issue. I was not certain he would be able to, given the nature of the fumbles which came while he was struggling for extra yards. And given what a big part of his game that is.

Funny how this thread has become a question of risk vs reward.

Kupp could get hurt but in hindsight, he didn't get hurt and he secured every possession.

Kyren could scale back his aggression at contact but in hindsight, sometimes a defender hits the ball just right and EVERY running back fumbles as a result.

It infuriates me when fans bemoan results when they aren't the ones taking the risks, then label someone a "fumbler" due to timing when the stats say it isn't true that they lack ball security skill or concentration. Is that really fair? Hell to the no. Criticize away. You have no responsibility on the field.

To me, it's a cultural problem. Criticizing others "is our fundamental right." Fine. There are those who believe externalizing blame and criticism is a construct that prevents the self from focusing on their own personal growth.

Judgement is the enemy of gratitude.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/04/2026 02:34AM by Leoram.
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  RE: Kyren the fumbler

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  About X Smith

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AlbaNY_Ram36July 04, 2026 04:58AM

  Last year was derailed by freak plays

stlramz34July 04, 2026 02:35PM

  good points

21Dog29July 04, 2026 03:34PM

  His TO's were happening at the worst times

Ramsdude61July 02, 2026 10:36AM

  I was one of those guys..

sstrams43July 03, 2026 06:53AM

  Fumbles cannot be blown out of proportion

merlin50July 03, 2026 08:44PM

  Re: Fumbles cannot be blown out of proportion

Leoram46July 04, 2026 02:33AM

  Stop with the rationalization

merlin49July 04, 2026 09:07AM

  I dont think Leo is doing that

Speed_Kills34July 04, 2026 03:35PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram37July 04, 2026 05:59PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

merlin28July 05, 2026 10:18AM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram31July 05, 2026 12:47PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

merlin31July 05, 2026 03:30PM

  Re: Stop with the rationalization

Leoram30July 05, 2026 05:23PM

  Hey Merlin

Speed_Kills36July 07, 2026 05:52AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

MalibuRam29July 07, 2026 07:31AM

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AlbaNY_Ram31July 07, 2026 08:32AM

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MalibuRam24July 07, 2026 09:24AM

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  Re: Hey Merlin

MalibuRam25July 07, 2026 09:55AM

  Adams

Leoram29July 07, 2026 04:57PM

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MalibuRam22July 07, 2026 06:20PM

  Re: Adams

Leoram23July 08, 2026 02:38AM

  Disagreement in these things are fine

merlin37July 07, 2026 09:25AM

  Re: Hey Merlin

Old Goat30July 07, 2026 12:24PM

  Re: RE: Kyren the fumbler

sfbayram31July 05, 2026 10:19AM

  Is Kyren Williams an "elite" RB?

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