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Re: It was an inexcusable decision by KW.

October 03, 2025 10:58AM
He could have, should have, been coached not to do that by so many repetitions that doing it right would be ingrained by now.

Kyren is certainly coachable. To continue to make the same mistake is on coaching, not the player. but still - inexcusable.

Remember Kurt Warner learning to take the hit when releasing the ball by his high school coack's "kill Kurt" drill? Repetition in practice until the new habit is formed, and then repeating it again, and again, and again - until it become automatic - is how new habits become lmost instinctive. This is basic learning theory.

That's the reason players have drills instead of one-time demos. If Kyren were my player I'd teach him how to hold a football. Then I'd invent drills that he had to repeat until the old bad habit was unlearned, (tough to do, but certainly possible - repetitionis the key) and the new good habit was formed in its place. I'd vary the drill, using no dummys, dummys, live bodies, and have him repeat, and repeat, vary the drill slightly, repeat, repeat, and repeat, until he was sick of it. Then rinse and repeat again.

Then, like the great Lombardi did with a notorious fumbler who came into his camp, I'd have him carry a football everywhere - including cafeteria, lockerroom, meetings, and reward the players who could punch the ball out and penalize the guy if he let it happen.

Result: The Golden Boy from Notre Dame, who was a fumbler when he came into the league, became, in Lombardi's words, the greatest player he ever coached - Paul Hornung. I watched a lot of Green Bay football in the Lombardi era and I never - ever - recall seeing Paul Hornung fumble. He was as sure-handed as they come, but fumbling had to be coached out of him.

And like any skill that one must maintain, it doesn't maintain itself. Great musicians practice familiar passages that were once difficult again and again between performances. Spec ops guys, like my Army Ranger squad leader and sniper nephew, spend their time between missions doing PT and on the range, shooting.

If I were Kyren's position coach I'd have him doing ball security all through camp and extra sets of ball security drills between games every week - not as punishment for having fumbled, but to help and inspire him to achieve and maintain his highest possible level of personal excellence.

It's tough love among other things: I love you too much to watch you go through the agony you did against the Eagles and the 49ers ever again. I want to give you all I can to help you overcome that, take what was once gut wrenching defeat and turn it into game-winning victory that rests on your shoulders.

Cam Akers fumbled, Williams continues to fumble, and in a brief sampling, Corum fumbled. Only Ronnie Rivers didn't fumble as a running back since 2023 whern Ron Gould came on board as running backs coach, and Rivers came into the league having never fumbled in college. Whaty does that tell us?

Maybe it's time top hold Coach Gould's feet to the fire - for HC McVay to demand that he get this aspect of our running game cleaned up. The fundamentals never get outdated.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Kyren Is a Fumbler

Classicalwit1035October 02, 2025 06:49PM

  Yeah, I think that's kind of official now.... damn!

RAMbler318October 02, 2025 06:50PM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

Ram_Ruler202October 02, 2025 06:52PM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

GlacieRam279October 02, 2025 06:52PM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

21Dog306October 02, 2025 06:54PM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

Classicalwit266October 03, 2025 03:36AM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

bigjimram21198October 03, 2025 05:45AM

  Someone on the GTF nailed it..Cleveland Gary ll...nm

Arkansas Ram207October 02, 2025 06:58PM

  Re: Someone on the GTF nailed it..Cleveland Gary ll...nm

Ohiorams190October 03, 2025 07:56AM

  Re: Someone on the GTF nailed it..Cleveland Gary ll...nm

Old Goat148October 03, 2025 09:26AM

  While I hate the fumbling

NewMexicoRam239October 02, 2025 06:54PM

  damn shame

Speed_Kills218October 02, 2025 07:00PM

  Kyren took his left hand off the ball

NewMexicoRam229October 02, 2025 07:04PM

  yeah not making excuses for him

Speed_Kills218October 02, 2025 07:06PM

  Re: yeah not making excuses for him

Ohiorams225October 02, 2025 07:10PM

  Re: Kyren took his left hand off the ball

six2stack234October 03, 2025 04:03AM

  Exactly! 100% on Kyren

Ramsdude184October 03, 2025 05:12AM

  Yep

stlramz200October 02, 2025 07:46PM

  Re: Yep

Speed_Kills201October 03, 2025 04:24AM

  My guess on the fumble

BigGame81254October 03, 2025 05:08AM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

21Dog208October 03, 2025 05:13AM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

Ramsdude218October 03, 2025 05:30AM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

mtramfan188October 03, 2025 09:55AM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

Classicalwit139October 03, 2025 03:18PM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

21Dog160October 03, 2025 04:30PM

  Re: My guess on the fumble

Classicalwit206October 03, 2025 11:15PM

  does he fumble "a lot", though?

LMU93192October 03, 2025 07:04AM

  me too

Speed_Kills200October 03, 2025 07:33AM

  I haven't had the strength to re-watch it....

JamesJM220October 03, 2025 07:41AM

  I agree with all of that

Speed_Kills293October 03, 2025 07:53AM

  Re: I agree with all of that

Drew2839214October 03, 2025 08:48AM

  He took his one hand off the ball to brace for contact with ground

Ramsdude156October 03, 2025 09:00AM

  Thanks for the clarification, 'Dude

Drew2839166October 03, 2025 09:09AM

  No Problem Drew

Ramsdude170October 03, 2025 09:22AM

  heres the play Drew

Speed_Kills200October 03, 2025 11:51AM

  Thank ya kindly sir

Drew2839172October 03, 2025 03:38PM

  agreed

Speed_Kills164October 03, 2025 06:40PM

  Re: It was an inexcusable decision by KW.

mtramfan186October 03, 2025 10:58AM

  Great post mt

Ramsdude143October 03, 2025 11:20AM

  Re: Great post mt - thanks! One thing I'd add...

mtramfan159October 03, 2025 03:13PM

  All true and yet....

JamesJM145October 05, 2025 05:05AM

  Re: Kyren Is a Fumbler

joram261October 03, 2025 03:22AM

  This isn't breaking news lol

Ramsdude251October 03, 2025 05:08AM

  Re: This isn't breaking news lol

3030194October 03, 2025 06:00AM

  I don't trust Williams at all..

sstrams182October 03, 2025 05:47AM

  Why Do We Have To "Live" A Fumbler?

ramBRO206October 03, 2025 07:15AM

  Re: Why Do We Have To "Live" A Fumbler?

21Dog202October 03, 2025 07:18AM

  Re: Why Do We Have To "Live" A Fumbler?

ramBRO165October 03, 2025 07:26AM

  We need AD....

JamesJM258October 03, 2025 07:27AM

  that and

Speed_Kills160October 03, 2025 07:58AM

  Kyren seems better at....

JamesJM189October 03, 2025 08:19AM

  they are very similar for sure nm

Speed_Kills154October 03, 2025 08:26AM

  Re: Corum's drops

mtramfan152October 03, 2025 03:23PM

  Re: Corum's drops

six2stack157October 05, 2025 04:53AM

  I hate to say, ‘I told you so’, but…

Rams_43273October 03, 2025 02:52PM

  Re: I hate to say, ‘I told you so’, but…

Classicalwit159October 03, 2025 03:31PM

  Yeah, we can tolerate the lack of explosiveness…

Rams_43212October 03, 2025 03:40PM

  Re: I hate to say, ‘I told you so’, but…

mtramfan180October 03, 2025 09:37PM

  Has two fumbles

Hazlet Hacksaw153October 05, 2025 07:19AM

  Re: Has two fumbles

Classicalwit158October 05, 2025 07:30AM

  Well, in an important way... IMHO....

JamesJM155October 05, 2025 08:00AM

  Thanks for that

Hazlet Hacksaw156October 05, 2025 08:01AM