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<title>Prayers needed y'all. I am SO sick and down for my Son. His Military dreams probably dashed.</title>
<description> I got the word last night at around 9:30. I hardly slept for three hours last night. I am stilled pissed. When he first went to MEPS.........FIVE %^%$^ YEARS AGO, his pulse and BP was up. He was NERVOUS! He also has a very slight deficit of hearing loss in left ear. FOUR years ago, he went to a Cardiologist that found ZEO issues with his heart. But he wrote &amp;quot;Anxiety&amp;quot; on the report. And THAT is the key reason the USAF Surgeon General said......&amp;quot;D.Q.&amp;quot; I am no Doctor but I DO know my Son has never been diagnosed with Anxiety and has never taken Meds for such a thing. I also know that Anxiety is NOT diagnosed by one EKG only. That poor kid has jumped through every hoop the Military has put before him. Some things FOUR times. I intend to first call his Recruiter this AM and then I want contact info for the USAF Surgeon Gen. I keep hearing sob stories about the Military being WAAAAY behind in Recruiting. I WONDER WHY??? When I was in the USAF, I worked with a guy who had nervous tics. One guy had a big time lazy eye. Anxiety???? My Son's current Recruiter said he got a Recruit signed up who had done PRIOR HARM TO HIMSELF??? Yeah....I'm going to be in full blown &amp;quot;Karen Mode&amp;quot; later this morning. Wish me luck.

UUUGH!!! I feel so bad! To think my Son was told that he was very close to getting there, just 3 weeks ago. Then they pull THIS Bullsh**??</description><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118247#msg-1118247</link><lastBuildDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 08:14:31 -0400</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Something that has really made me say WTF?? from VERY early in the game..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1119399#msg-1119399</link><description><![CDATA[ Is just how amazingly LAZY Recruiters are. GEEESH! When I was going through the process in late 1985, Recruiters were FREAKISHLY Gung Ho and down right bothersome. That's back in the days WELL before the simple contact of e mails and cell phones. I think I had to call my Recruiter just once. And those were the days when the Military was swarmed with people to join and looking hard for more. In the last 5 years, I have heard the lame excuse......&quot;I've had to deal with other Recruits&quot; DAYS after expecting a phone call or worse.....a returned call. Navy Recruiters were flat out pathetic. Early on, I had a conversation with a Navy CPO! It was like talking to someone with the communication ability of a 13 year old. Another Navy Recruiter flat out lied about not getting VERY important documentation. We assumed he was processing it. That was a 4-5 month window where nothing was done. Did the Recruiter call and ask where it was?? Nope! Then came Covid. I'll give them that. That was a mess. But overall.....Military Recruitment is very bad and in a time when I hear they NEED Recruits. Even the USAF guy. He has been much better. But even he is far from the standard of what I was used to.]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 09:30:13 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>NOOOOO. Not at all discouraging.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1119258#msg-1119258</link><description><![CDATA[ I AM hearing that more n more though. Has to be something to it. I just want my Son to play EEEEVERY card till the game IS over.]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 22:11:33 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>sorry......didn't mean to be discouraging</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118714#msg-1118714</link><description><![CDATA[ I admire your son's desire to serve. Hoping the best for him.]]></description>
<dc:creator>21Dog</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 15:19:53 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>In just the past week, I have had a few people tell me the same. BUUT...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118678#msg-1118678</link><description><![CDATA[ I still want to see my Son get JUST 4 years in the USAF. He will still have a great experience and make friends that are special. Even a year or two ago, my Son and I were chatting about the status of today's Military and if a career was a good idea. In the last 5 years, he has dealt with 5 Navy Recruiters and 1 USAF. The USAF guy seems ok and one of the Navy guys seemed ok. But overall, I did not sense the same Pride that my Recruiter had. DEFINITELY not the same enthusiasm. I was just telling my Wife that ONE Army Recruiter hounded me from the day I graduated High School. So help me, he even called my house AFTER I left for USAF Boot Camp. I thought it was funny , for years. Now?? I'd give ANYTHING if my Son could have had a Recruiter just half as Gung Ho.]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 13:00:02 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Part of the problem is what you mention..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118658#msg-1118658</link><description><![CDATA[ Civilians as part of the process.. vets get preference for civilian jobs.. and I agree with that to a degree.. butnnot all jobs should be included.. for example, my job.. my job involves computer programming, 3d model development, photoshop expertise, vector graphics etc.. highly specialized stuff.. when they announced my job, you had to fill out a questionnaire to show your level of expertise in all these fields.. multiple choice answers from &quot;never heard of it&quot; to &quot;expert&quot;..<br /><br />Ok, so what happens is when a person is actually hired for civilian positions, they are in.. they can't be fired, can't be let go.. once you're in, you're IN.. you're not allowed to ask for a portfolio and nobody bothers with interviews.. they go strictly by the answers in the questionnaire..<br /><br />So, ever vet who fills out the questionnaire answers that they are EXPERTS in ever field.. and Impromisemyou none of them have ever done that type of work EVER in their lives.. complete beginners.. but they answer they are experts.. So they get hired to be a computer programmer.. they walk in daynone and can't even turn a computer on, but they can't be fired and can't be let go.. So you've got an absolute beginner given a job that requires multiple levels of expertise..<br /><br />Well, getting in a position to do that job on ANY level takes years.. that's what's happening across all jobs and levels in civil service.. that's why nothing is ever getting done, like in your case.. it's maddening, but it's the government stacking the deck.. I agree bets should be given preference as long as they actually DO have experience in the job they are applying for.. but they never do.. they lie their way into getting hired and once hired, can't be let go.. there ya have it..]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:44:36 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I know two young men....</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118643#msg-1118643</link><description><![CDATA[ one is an Army Ranger (a cousin) and the other is a Annapolis grad and a former fighter pilot (son of a good friend). These are the best of the best.<br /><br />Both are nearly retirement age and they can't get out fast enough. They hate the way the military is currently run.<br /><br />I'll leave it at that.]]></description>
<dc:creator>21Dog</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 10:01:04 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Literally a week after the Berlin Wall went down, you could see the decline. It's why I left the USAF.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118632#msg-1118632</link><description><![CDATA[ I was seriously thinking of staying in. I was to discharge on 3 Feb 1990. My decision was easy after the wall went down and the Cold War ended. They went NUTS with cuts and basic treatment of personnel. The damn near eliminated Dependant care. Dropped Retirement to that of McDonald's. A few months later, the Military had to scramble like hell to prep for Desert Shield / Storm. I even got a notice to report to Moody AFB, Valdosta, for a Inactive Reserve Assessment. The first sentence of that letter read........&quot;This is of no relation to Desert Shield&quot; YEAH RIGHT!!!! US Military was in NOOOO way to go into Iraq. THAT is why Bush did not finish off Saddam then. HOW CONVENIENT that 3 days after Saddam surrendered, I received a letter saying to disregard trip to Moody AFB.<br /><br />Since 1989, the Military has had to function with major cuts. During Obama's time, the USAF was going to the Arizona Bone Yards for parts. Also...P.C. has taken importance over practicality. Top that off with trying to Recruit so many kids who don't wanna leave the Basement and XBOX and you have a mess. Recently, the USAF upped the age to enlist to FORTY TWO??? But they want to keep people out who WANT to be there but cannot hear a flea fart in a sound booth.<br /><br />I believe the word is that old Military word.............. FUBAR]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 08:06:05 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Two days ago, I had a USAF E-7, who is a MEPS Liaison tell me that.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118630#msg-1118630</link><description><![CDATA[ Told me in a lowered voice.......&quot;I'm not very fond of the MEPS process&quot;. Literally 4 months after my Son started this mess, MEPS changed from a fairly well organized program to a mix of Military and Civilians with changing standards and protocols. Even the Recruiters are lost in it all. They almost never had answers. Hard to do so when the source....MEPS is a Clusterf***.<br /><br />That same E-7 is the one who is going to attempt to get Thomas a hearing exam under USAF protocol and NOT MEPS.<br /><br />It's the very last card / hope we have. If not......EXACTLY what you said.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:44:12 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Anything government run is a joke..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118602#msg-1118602</link><description><![CDATA[ Believe me, i know.. I've worked for the government for 23 years - the Air Force, specifically.. all I've seen is an organization completely confused with priorities on the total wrong things and absolute waste of tax payer money.. it's really a joke, man.. I'm sorry your son is getting the run around, but maybe it's for the better, considering how jacked up that organization is..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:55:22 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I ain't giving up and neither is my Son. We still have ONE more card that might happen.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118579#msg-1118579</link><description><![CDATA[ A separate hearing test. I'm also going to find out HOWWWWW IN THE HELL hearing such faint tones is important to 90% of Military jobs?? I find it hilarious that the Military will require it for some kid before he joins the Army only to be assigned to...ARTILLERY???<br /><br />Again..... Such NONSENSE when the Military is in need of people.<br /><br />I pretty much have stayed out of things. But after jerking my Son around for 5 years, my gloves are off. I'm gonna keep asking questions till I get logical answers.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 18:55:26 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Thanks. I haven't felt this helpless in a long time. I'm gonna keep digging and be a PITA to MEPS and Recruitment.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118577#msg-1118577</link><description><![CDATA[ I intend to send a e mail or call if I can get the number, to the USAF Surgeon General. I want to know why, if hearing loss is a automatic DQ, exactly why was he told to get a follow up with a E.N.T. and a C Scan??? Why did they ask for the results (That were normal as can be). Two months later, MEPS asked to see the Doctor's notes?? Why?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 18:47:24 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Thoese jobs are in HUGE demand out here in CA</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118567#msg-1118567</link><description><![CDATA[ if military doesnt work, I'd highly recommend any of those : electriaican first....if he has the aptitude for that.....Can easily knock down 100,000 a year and pick his job<br /><br />sorry about all the BS the poor kid is going through]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:36:08 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I told him to at least consider the Navy again. With what you said, what kills me...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118548#msg-1118548</link><description><![CDATA[ Just how lazy Recruitment was. It was pulling teeth to get them to do anything. The USAF guy made phone calls and at least halfway pressed the issue. NOW...Where I am PISSED is that if hearing is a D.Q., WHY was Thomas not told LAST year?? I also went off on a MEPS guy two days ago when I asked....If an automatic D.Q. Why the Eff did you guys send him for a C Scan of his ear??? He said if there was any questions or inquiries, it would cover them. To which I replied. A C Scan on HIS time and on HIS dime?? I might have pressed the right buttons because I had another MEPS E-7 tell me he would contact HIS Superior and see if Thomas can get a regular USAF test and NOT MEPS. Said he was not overly fond of the MEPS structure.<br /><br />But what you said....I keep hearing about all the Recruitment shortcomings and then they Jerry people around. And what my Son cannot hear is a tone that you can ONLY hear in a sound proof booth with a head set. Taken that test 35-40 times in my life and if you even BREATHE you will not hear it. HOW does that keep a kid out of the Military??????]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:09:35 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Thats to bad</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118471#msg-1118471</link><description><![CDATA[ I was bummed back when he finally gave up on the Navy , I'm sure he would have enjoyed it<br /><br />just looking at the Navy recruiting numbers for 2023<br /><br />way below their goal<br /><br />The Navy's recruiting numbers for fiscal year 2023 were:<br /><br />Active duty sailors<br />The Navy recruited 30,236 active duty sailors, falling short of its goal of 37,700<br /><br />Reserve enlisted personnel<br />The Navy recruited 1,948 reserve enlisted personnel, falling short of its goal of 3,000<br /><br />Active duty officers<br />The Navy recruited 2,080 active duty officers, which was in line with its goal of 2,532<br /><br />Reserve officers<br />The Navy recruited 1,167 reserve officers, which was in line with its goal of 1,940]]></description>
<dc:creator>IowaRam</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:17:40 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>All the reason it frustrates me. They cannot get 100% healthy kids to even look at a Recruiting Office</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118283#msg-1118283</link><description><![CDATA[ And are whining about low enlistments. And the tell my Son, who REALLY wants to join, with very insignificant hearing loss to go away.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 12:43:07 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: So..... FIFTEEN months later, the USAF tells him its his hearing??</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118279#msg-1118279</link><description><![CDATA[ I'm not that patient. I'd have bailed after maybe 2 years of that nonsense. That would have been long enough for me.]]></description>
<dc:creator>MamaRAMa</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 12:11:44 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>So..... FIFTEEN months later, the USAF tells him its his hearing??</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118270#msg-1118270</link><description><![CDATA[ But they just spent the last 9 -10 months questioning an &quot;Anxiety&quot; report?? Lady at MEPS told me the Surgeon General likes to collect all info first. I asked...WHYY?? What the $%%$^ is the point when you already know that his hearing is a &quot;problem&quot;??<br /><br />We have just one more card to play. An E-8 who is a liaison between MEPS and the Surgeon General.<br /><br />What pissed me off almost as much as seeing my Son deflated, is the EFFING CIRCUS they put him through for 5 years and a week. Five years of his life he cannot get back.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 10:54:57 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>JUST talked to him about that.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118267#msg-1118267</link><description><![CDATA[ He has a High School Bud who got a job at an Electric Company. He might look into that. I told him that Jacksonville has a few places...electric, plumbing, HVAC that have Apprentice jobs.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 10:48:55 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>that's a shame</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118263#msg-1118263</link><description><![CDATA[ Hope things work out for him.]]></description>
<dc:creator>21Dog</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 10:30:33 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Prayers needed y'all. I am SO sick and down for my Son. His Military dreams probably dashed.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118262#msg-1118262</link><description><![CDATA[ Does your son have a Plan B.... just in case?]]></description>
<dc:creator>MamaRAMa</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 10:14:50 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Also...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118261#msg-1118261</link><description><![CDATA[ Recruiter has contacted the ONE person in his chain of Command that can liaison between us and the Surgeon General. Said for us/ me to contact MEPS first and then call him (Gotta use that chain of Command. I DO get that)<br /><br />So...It at least SOUNDS like the door was closed on Thomas but not locked.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:43:38 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I just talked to his Recruiter..... HOPE!</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118260#msg-1118260</link><description><![CDATA[ He did something rarely done. Gave ME the number to MEPS. I also found there is a MAJOR misunderstanding on one of Thomas' Cardio Reports that can/ SHOULD be clarified. One thing that pissed me off...I found the USAF Surgeon General has an Automated system that picks up key words on reports and can kick out...&quot;D.Q.&quot; WITHOUT evaluation. CRAP! That's like a Facebook ban because of one word!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:41:19 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Yeah, I don't underatand..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118252#msg-1118252</link><description><![CDATA[ We just had the breakfast commander meet with us nd part of his spiel ws that the Air Force is having to drastically reduce its requirements for people to sign up, because they are so far behind in recruiting.. it's a joke.. but, pretty much anything run by the government is.. don't get me started..<br /><br />Best wishes and best 9f luck to your son.. and you..]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:15:13 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Prayers needed y'all. I am SO sick and down for my Son. His Military dreams probably dashed.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1118247,1118247#msg-1118247</link><description><![CDATA[ I got the word last night at around 9:30. I hardly slept for three hours last night. I am stilled pissed. When he first went to MEPS.........FIVE %^%$^ YEARS AGO, his pulse and BP was up. He was NERVOUS! He also has a very slight deficit of hearing loss in left ear. FOUR years ago, he went to a Cardiologist that found ZEO issues with his heart. But he wrote &quot;Anxiety&quot; on the report. And THAT is the key reason the USAF Surgeon General said......&quot;D.Q.&quot; I am no Doctor but I DO know my Son has never been diagnosed with Anxiety and has never taken Meds for such a thing. I also know that Anxiety is NOT diagnosed by one EKG only. That poor kid has jumped through every hoop the Military has put before him. Some things FOUR times. I intend to first call his Recruiter this AM and then I want contact info for the USAF Surgeon Gen. I keep hearing sob stories about the Military being WAAAAY behind in Recruiting. I WONDER WHY??? When I was in the USAF, I worked with a guy who had nervous tics. One guy had a big time lazy eye. Anxiety???? My Son's current Recruiter said he got a Recruit signed up who had done PRIOR HARM TO HIMSELF??? Yeah....I'm going to be in full blown &quot;Karen Mode&quot; later this morning. Wish me luck.<br /><br />UUUGH!!! I feel so bad! To think my Son was told that he was very close to getting there, just 3 weeks ago. Then they pull THIS Bullsh**??]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2024 06:40:59 -0400</pubDate></item>
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