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<description> I mean its more than that... Leif Garrett looks like a damn bad ass general from WW2 compared to whatever the hell I just saw. But OK... So was Abba, the BeeGees, Elton John, Donna Summer, KC and the Sunshine Band... are they the equivalent to the pop stars today? I'm just not hip to the music today? My daughter knows all the words to songs that, to me, suck... not just a little bit either. I mean they are horrible to listen to. I want to think I can still recognize good music and that my age doesn't affect that. 

It also occurred to me that Zeppelin was classic rock when I was growing up. I was born in January 1968... And it seemed like old music.... so did the Beatles. But it was just a decade or so... I was listening to the radio and the DJ (is that what they're called?) said 30 years ago today Soundgarden put out this song... And although I don't feel like Soundgarden is modern... I don't feel like that record was 30 years ago... 

Uptown Funk was released 2014... My daughter was 4... Stairway to Heaven released late in 1971... I was 3 years 10 months. But she, now 14, feels like Uptown Funk is contemporary... whereas I, at age 14, felt Stairway was pretty old.

Anyway, Taylor Swift sucks IMO. Kidding. I kid, I kid... I'm a kidder.

Edit: Sorry for another &amp;quot;Today's music sucks&amp;quot; thread topic.

Edit #2 1976 Top 100


Edit #3 This really goes for all music... not just the pop stuff. The last 20 years... the last 10 especially have been rough on rock and sub-genres. I'm sure there have been parents at each generation... &amp;quot;That's not music!&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;All the songs today sound the same&amp;quot;... but that's what I say now... because most rock-type music sounds the same to me. And there I am... out of touch.</description><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097494#msg-1097494</link><lastBuildDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 09:27:44 -0400</lastBuildDate>
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<dc:creator>IowaRam</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 18:53:50 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: I wouldn't but I hear it...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097916#msg-1097916</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Atlantic Ram</strong><br/>
the response to it shocks me... kids LOVE todays' music. I mean scream and then sing and dance along. So for them to like it that much, I feel like I am being the guy who can't deal with the &quot;new-fangled&quot; product. There's been pop music that I haven't liked since I was a kid... but I feel like everything I listen to is just difficult to listen to. And I want to compare it to being used to Hemingway but the world is a Dan Brown fan...</div></blockquote><br />The screaming also went on at Beatles' concerts. I've heard band members say they couldn't hear themselves. It was one of the reasons they quit doing live shows.]]></description>
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<title>You nailed it. It really crashed around 2000.....</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097914#msg-1097914</link><description><![CDATA[ I say it started trending downward, FAST, around 1989-90. 90s at least had some Country stuff I liked and a FEW other songs. But even that was minimal.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
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<title>That just depresses me</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097854#msg-1097854</link><description><![CDATA[ because I think &quot;This? this is what we're listening to?&quot; I don't think I've heard anything on a TV show... like a late night talkshow that I thought wasn't mediocre at best. I feel like there isn't new sound... or even much of a variation on an old sound.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Atlantic Ram</dc:creator>
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<title>Don't get me started on AI music...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097847#msg-1097847</link><description><![CDATA[ Honestly I feel like the performer is one thing AI will not take over. But writing and producing music... Jesus... I can get AI to write a song and have Robert Plant sing it.... or Michael Jackson, or Taylor Swift. What chance do I have against that? None is the answer. But I can still get on stage and perform it and AI can't.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Atlantic Ram</dc:creator>
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<title>I wouldn't but I hear it...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097845#msg-1097845</link><description><![CDATA[ the response to it shocks me... kids LOVE todays' music. I mean scream and then sing and dance along. So for them to like it that much, I feel like I am being the guy who can't deal with the &quot;new-fangled&quot; product. There's been pop music that I haven't liked since I was a kid... but I feel like everything I listen to is just difficult to listen to. And I want to compare it to being used to Hemingway but the world is a Dan Brown fan...]]></description>
<dc:creator>Atlantic Ram</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 20:11:38 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I think I am forming a theory</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097843#msg-1097843</link><description><![CDATA[ I think music was played more when I was a kid. The stern was a bit of a focal point. We bought records and listened to entire albums. Today, there really isn't anything like that. A lot of music is on video games. MTV isn't really a thing. And kids can just play the most instantly catchy, or trendy, song whenever they want on YouTube. So if their friends are listening to a song, they can listen to it over and over, immediately and as much as they want.<br /><br />My point is that the audience today doesn't have the same background... The music from the 50's developed into the 60's and 60's into 70's and then the 80's... 90's etc. each decade adding a bit of its own flavor. But sometime around the 2000's that started to slow. I am guessing the internet was the culprit. Rock bands started to sound like Creed and Nickleback and then there was whatever Korn or SOAD is... and then things just got blurred to the point that it all sounds the same... and for a lot of the younger listeners it is just what is available to their generation.<br /><br />My daughter likes, what I would consider some of the worst music I've ever heard... and if she hears the current popular song, she goes nuts...everyone does... But she also likes Queen, the Turtles, the Eurythmics... and knows the lyrics, so I know she has listened to them more than once. So its a stretch but I think the millennials and Gen Z don't have the wealth of music to form their tastes... I think a jingle writer would do really well writing pop songs right now. It has to be catchy or the music has to be attached to a social media celebrity or idol type. But insane talent is not a necessity today and music is a lot more about style and a lot less about substance.<br /><br />So would Taylor Swift be popular in the 70's? Not to pick on her but she is selling tickets at $1000 a pop, so she's a bit of a target. The biggest music star at the moment... She is basically the Beatles. I can't think of another star that has garnered as much recognition.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Atlantic Ram</dc:creator>
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<title>organic sums it up</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097704#msg-1097704</link><description><![CDATA[ from the soul.....]]></description>
<dc:creator>ferragamo79</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 23:38:46 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: No, never seen that guy..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097695#msg-1097695</link><description><![CDATA[ Wow... sounds like he caught the Eagles lip syncing.<br /><br /><br/><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/TlEpVfnvIac" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="850" height="700"></embed><br/>]]></description>
<dc:creator>SeattleRam</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 23:06:34 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Autotuners</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097621#msg-1097621</link><description><![CDATA[ everyone now days sounds like that guy from Nickleback<br /><br />even country sings sound like that guy from Nickleback]]></description>
<dc:creator>IowaRam</dc:creator>
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<title>No idea why</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097611#msg-1097611</link><description><![CDATA[ but that made me think of the 2002 film &quot;Garage Days&quot;, about a Australian garage band trying to break into the big time. If you've never seen it, its pretty funny.]]></description>
<dc:creator>SeattleRam</dc:creator>
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<title>No, never seen that guy..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097602#msg-1097602</link><description><![CDATA[ All I know is that autotune became so mainstream that even singers who didn't need it used it because the vocal effect it unfortunately created became popular.. pure garbage...]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 15:42:36 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Bahahahahaha</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097601#msg-1097601</link><description><![CDATA[ Never seen the movie.. I may need to watch it, now.. lol]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
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<title>I think it's the creativity that's missing...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097593#msg-1097593</link><description><![CDATA[ I think as far as talent it's very much still around... even better (technically). But their music is not organic.<br /><br />I can't say what % this next is... but I suspect it's a LOT.... the powers that be, those in control of what gets aired, have a cookie cutter template of the sound they want and either the artist obeys or it doesn't get produced. - JamesJM]]></description>
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<title>This will be paraphrased....</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097591#msg-1097591</link><description><![CDATA[ because I cannot remember the exact quote. It's from the movie &quot;Fame&quot; and it's one of my all time favorite quotes.<br /><br />In the movie there is a very talented keyboard player who argues with his music instructor that he doesn't need other musicians, other instruments, because he can do it all with his synthesizer.<br /><br />The music instructor replies, &quot;That's not music, Bruno. That's &quot;Maturbation&quot;. :laughing]]></description>
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<title>Re: I don't listen to anything current..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097587#msg-1097587</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>sstrams</strong><br/>
It's all garbage, imo...</div></blockquote><br />Yep, first lip sync, then autotune and now A.I. Its all trash.<br /><br />Ever watch this guys vids? He uses software to show who uses autotune and who doesn't.<br /><br /><br/><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/BDJF4lR3_eg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="850" height="700"></embed><br/>]]></description>
<dc:creator>SeattleRam</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 14:58:42 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Agree I don't like today's music</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097568#msg-1097568</link><description><![CDATA[ I still watch SNL and watch the music acts to see if there is anything special out there, but no]]></description>
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<title>I don't listen to anything current..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097553#msg-1097553</link><description><![CDATA[ It's all garbage, imo.. very little talent, all production.. I hear the latest Motley Crue song was completely AI generated? What's the point? Who gets the song writing credit? I don't get it.. I'll never get it.. either play your instrument and write your own songs or go sell insurance..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 11:19:33 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I bet it has been 12-15 years for me.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097540#msg-1097540</link><description><![CDATA[ I gave it an honest shot when I was at the Beach about 12 years ago. I listened to our local Top 20 Station for about 30-40 minutes to see if there was SOMETHING I might like. NOPE!! Last Summer, I tuned to that Station for about 2....3 seconds. The &quot;sound&quot; I heard??? Scraping a shovel on concrete was better.<br /><br />To hear me talk about Music, some may think I'm narrow minded. Thing is, I grew up liking ALL sorts of Music. About 18 years ago, Jacksonville had THEEEEEEEE best Radio Station ever! It played all sorts of Music from the late 1950s to the mid 80s. You could listen for three days and not hear the same song. You could go from Bill Haley And The Comets one song and then hear Earth Wind &amp; Fire the next.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 09:57:22 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I don't listen to it.....</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097537#msg-1097537</link><description><![CDATA[ I can't even remember the last time I tuned into a 'current music hits' radio station. So to be honest... I know very little about today's music.<br /><br />Occasionally one of my grandkids will play a current song for me thinking I'll like it - and sometimes I do, like it that is. BUT... it's never anything that really captures my attention.]]></description>
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<title>Today's &quot;Music&quot; is lame as hell.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097535#msg-1097535</link><description><![CDATA[ I'm no fan of Taylor Swift but I'll give HER her due. She has TALENT! 95% of the other crap is STUDIO Engineered garbage....I thought modern &quot;Music&quot; was dumbed down a few years ago when it all had the Saaaaame two beats in every song... A Bass thump and a drum / snare beat. Now, I hear noise that is NOTHING but a Bass sound. Just a &quot;DOOOOONG&quot; beat with TALKED lyrics. People bring up...&quot;EVERY generation says the same thing&quot; I disagree. My Mom and ESPECIALLY Dad did NOT care for a lot of the Music me and my Brother listened to. But I'd often hear them say....Not my style but very talented. My Mom did not like stuff like KISS or Aerosmith but she was hip to a lot of other stuff like Fleetwood Mac, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Rod Stewart.<br /><br />Simply check out ANY Top 20 list for ANY week through the 70s or 80s and you will see song after song after song that are Classics. MANY variations of sounds and harmonies brought to life by REAL Musical ability. R&amp;B back in the day had Bands like Kool &amp; The Gang who sang harmonies while playing guitars , keyboards and horns. These days, it's lip synced crap with Dancers running everywhere to distract from the lack of talent.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
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<title>How do I not hate today's music?</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1097494,1097494#msg-1097494</link><description><![CDATA[ I mean its more than that... Leif Garrett looks like a damn bad ass general from WW2 compared to whatever the hell I just saw. But OK... So was Abba, the BeeGees, Elton John, Donna Summer, KC and the Sunshine Band... are they the equivalent to the pop stars today? I'm just not hip to the music today? My daughter knows all the words to songs that, to me, suck... not just a little bit either. I mean they are horrible to listen to. I want to think I can still recognize good music and that my age doesn't affect that.<br /><br />It also occurred to me that Zeppelin was classic rock when I was growing up. I was born in January 1968... And it seemed like old music.... so did the Beatles. But it was just a decade or so... I was listening to the radio and the DJ (is that what they're called?) said 30 years ago today Soundgarden put out this song... And although I don't feel like Soundgarden is modern... I don't feel like that record was 30 years ago...<br /><br />Uptown Funk was released 2014... My daughter was 4... Stairway to Heaven released late in 1971... I was 3 years 10 months. But she, now 14, feels like Uptown Funk is contemporary... whereas I, at age 14, felt Stairway was pretty old.<br /><br />Anyway, Taylor Swift sucks IMO. Kidding. I kid, I kid... I'm a kidder.<br /><br />Edit: Sorry for another &quot;Today's music sucks&quot; thread topic.<br /><br />Edit #2 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1976" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >1976 Top 100</a><br /><br /><br />Edit #3 This really goes for all music... not just the pop stuff. The last 20 years... the last 10 especially have been rough on rock and sub-genres. I'm sure there have been parents at each generation... &quot;That's not music!&quot;. &quot;All the songs today sound the same&quot;... but that's what I say now... because most rock-type music sounds the same to me. And there I am... out of touch.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Atlantic Ram</dc:creator>
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