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<description> My street does not have one but I sure wish it did. Next door, I have a neighbor who is CONSTANTLY pulling trash from her car. She'll set it on and around the car. I'm talking 2-3 times a week. Often, she will leave garbage in the area for her, also grown / 60something Brother to pick up or her 92 year old Dad. The house next to them is a Rental (Say no more) They have had three orange soda cans sitting right in the middle of their front lawn for about 2 weeks.

The Wife and I have often talked about remodeling our Kitchen, removing popcorn ceilings and a few other costly things. But we both have agreed to wait out the direction of our street. I am NOT gonna make the same mistake I did with my first house. Pour TONS of $$$$$ and heart n soul into it and then LOOSE a ton of money because the area gets infested with too many &amp;quot;Summer's Eve&amp;quot; POS people. The sweet lady who lives on the other side of us is in her mid 80s and in questionable health. The house next to her is for sale after it's Owner passed away. When we moved in 12 years ago, we were just one of 3 houses out of the 15 on the street who had not been here since they were built in 1981-83. Those numbers are fading.

I LOVE LOVE our house. Already a TON of sweet memories. But I have told my Wife...If we move, we are OUT of Jacksonville and headed for the sticks. TOOOO many once great areas in this town are crashing n burning very fast.</description><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089592#msg-1089592</link><lastBuildDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 09:48:15 -0400</lastBuildDate>
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<title>I am REALLY holding my breath with my street. Reminds me of my old neighborhood.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1090015#msg-1090015</link><description><![CDATA[ The one that I grew up in. It was nothing but Old School people who gave a damn. When they started passing away, many of their homes became Rentals = Game Over! It has sorta made a rebound but it's still far from what it was. Our street...Saaaaame thing. The old school folks are fading and the Younger generations moving in simply do not care. I honestly do not see it getting better. The only question will be is how long can me and my Wife tolerate it???<br /><br />Pisses me off to no end because we are just 4-6 years away from paying off our house. I was HOPING this would be my last house.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2024 15:41:35 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Having Lived in Both HOA and Non-HOA Housing Tracts...</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089986#msg-1089986</link><description><![CDATA[ I'd have to agree that it's better to live in a neighborhood that has one.<br /><br />My current neighborhood is non-HOA. It's a nice neighborhood and, for the most part, we haven't had too many issues (but we've had some). Like you said...all you need is for one homeowner to not care and things can go downhill pretty fast.]]></description>
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<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2024 11:40:53 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: They have one meeting a year, in April..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089896#msg-1089896</link><description><![CDATA[ I have nothing to support this but based on your story it sounds like what you have is a laissez-faire Board but one that is probably legitimate.]]></description>
<dc:creator>waterfield</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 15:43:19 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>They have one meeting a year, in April..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089880#msg-1089880</link><description><![CDATA[ to discuss stuff and elect new members.. Out of 55 houses, usually 10-12 people are there.. Nobody goes to the meetings.. They discuss where the money went from the monthly dues, yard crew contracts. pool maintenance, and then who, of the people there, is interested in one of the board positions.. Whoever raises their hand immediately gets elected by the other 10-11 people, just so they don't get voluntold to do the position themselves..<br /><br />At one point, we had a surplus of $25K in the account and discussed improvements we could make with the money.. I suggested turning one of the storage rooms by the pool into a bathroom, which everybody liked.. We &quot;elected&quot; a new president, who only served about 6 months.. Then he moved out of the neighborhood.. At the next board meeting they mentioned we actually had a shortage and needed to raise dues.. I asked where was the surplus and nobody had an answer, nor did they expend much energy into finding out.. everybody knows the president guy who moved took it.. Why they didn't go after him is a hotly debated subject..<br /><br />Its kind of a joke, which is why nobody goes to them.. I've been to 4-5 over 28 years, but after the surplus went missing and nobody investigated, I stopped caring..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 14:40:42 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>How do they consider it to be a HOA?</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089876#msg-1089876</link><description><![CDATA[ Do they have Board meetings? Elected members? Open regularly scheduled meetings for all those living within the so-called HOA governance?<br /><br />Each state has laws governing HOAs..A bunch of people can't just get together and call themselves a HOA.]]></description>
<dc:creator>waterfield</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 14:12:18 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Only agreement was a spoken agreement</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089839#msg-1089839</link><description><![CDATA[ Which consisted soley of agreement to pay monthly HOA fees.. that was word of mouth agreement.. there were no rules or other agreements, written or spoken..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:53:20 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: That's awesome..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089822#msg-1089822</link><description><![CDATA[ You just have to look at any agreements you may have signed regardless of whether they are a &quot;legal&quot; HOA or not.]]></description>
<dc:creator>waterfield</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 21:28:37 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I can see the double edge sword of HOAs. On one hand.....</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089770#msg-1089770</link><description><![CDATA[ I know there are many out there that are run by power hungry egos. I also know that many people move into HOA areas knowing damn well what the rules are but then either push the envelope or run to a TV News station to whine. The very common one down here is .....Flags. MANY HOAs say in clear print....&quot;NO flags of ANY sort&quot;. I like seeing American flags flying proudly as much as anyone. You guys know me and my love for Country. But I get irked when someone moves to where they KNOW they are not allowed then raise hell when confronted. People say...I'm not gonna let a HOA tell me what color to paint my house and then paint their house NEON PINK?? Yes....Happened here in Jacksonville.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:28:39 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>In modern cookie cutter neighborhoods, they are almost a must, IMO.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089767#msg-1089767</link><description><![CDATA[ Because people are pretty much Dirt Bags these days. I have seen tooooooo many brand spanking new subdivisions here in Florida go to hell in hardly 5 years. One in SIX MONTHS! That Subdivision had a house that the owners painted BARNEY purple with green shudders! I mean ...HOAs are a must for people who REALLY care about their investment of buying a home. If unkept yards, yards with trash and 6 cars parked on dirt don't bother people? More power to them. Myself?? If I ever leave this house, I'm HOPING to be in your situation...PLENTY of space next door. The ex and I built in a new area 22 years ago and I have sworn I will NEVER EVER build in a Subdivision ever again.<br /><br />I mean......What the hell happened??? I remember when I was a kid in the 70s, EVERYONE gave at least HALF a damn about their houses and property. Every block had maybe that one yard that looked like garbage. These days, in NON HOA areas, you are doing good to find 5- 6 homes on a block that look decent.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:20:58 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>That's awesome..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089766#msg-1089766</link><description><![CDATA[ But, man.. a year worth of fighting has to take its toal.. these HOA people just like to throw what little bit of weight they have, around.. I wanna get solar panels.. my guess is that I'll be having multiple arguments with them over that.. but, not being a legal HOA I don't think they have a pot to pee in..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:16:11 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Yeah, it's kinda funny..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089760#msg-1089760</link><description><![CDATA[ I represented a woman from Iran who leased her home to her parents who spoke no English. They ran into a contractor who talked them into re-doing the driveway. Of course the driveway turned out to be &quot;different&quot; than all the other homes. Our argument was that after years of doing nothing a new HOA board member on a walk-through noticed and threated to have someone put in a new driveway and charge the owner of the home. The law provides that if sufficient time goes by the law will assume it has passed any sort of implied inspection. We fought on behalf of the owner for well over a year and eventually prevailed.]]></description>
<dc:creator>waterfield</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 12:50:38 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: I used to be totally against HOAs. These days, ALL for them!</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089731#msg-1089731</link><description><![CDATA[ I have never wanted to live where there is an HOA. We remodeled in 2017. We considered selling and buying another house instead, but had a designer and a realtor come by and take a look to help decide whether we wanted to remodel or move... the realtor walked through the house and around the yard and kept asking, &quot;WHY would you want to move from here?!&quot; :lol So we remodeled.<br /><br />I'm blessed to live on three acres, so the nearest neighbors are probably 75 yards away, and the next nearest close to a quarter of a mile. And there's plenty of trees and brush between us, so I don't have to be concerned about what they do or how their yard looks. The only thing is it's a big yard, and I'm not sure how long I'll be able to take care of all of it, but I may live here until I have to move to a retirement village or something like that.<br /><br />HOA's are a double edged sword. They won't let you do just anything you want, but they won't let your neighbors do just anything they want. But that's best case scenario, some of them do nothing except take money.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Aries</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 07:58:12 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Yeah, it's kinda funny..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089730#msg-1089730</link><description><![CDATA[ My HOA acts like residents aren't allowed to do anything to the exterior of their houses or land without HOA approval.. but, technically my HOA is not a legal HOA, so, from what I understand, they have no legal authority to grant or deny any changes to anyone's property.. meaning, do what you want.. if they pitch a fit, tell em where to go.. I've never asked permission to do anything in 27 years.. I don't plan to, anytime soon lol]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 07:28:46 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I've had fun with HOAs.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089727#msg-1089727</link><description><![CDATA[ Representing tenants who have been charged fees for doing something &quot;allegedly&quot; against the &quot;rules&quot; of the HOA. Most of the people who run for the Board know nothing about what they can or cannot do-unless they are lawyers-and even then !]]></description>
<dc:creator>waterfield</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 02:22:52 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>They think money is no object here</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089639#msg-1089639</link><description><![CDATA[ Which is probably why people keeping moving out, but as soon as one is available, it gets snatched up...]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:00:41 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I have heard of INSANE HOA fees that are around $400-$500 / month here in Florida.</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089636#msg-1089636</link><description><![CDATA[ Buuuut in areas where money is not much of an object.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 12:27:00 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>Must be nice.. my HOA fees are..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089619#msg-1089619</link><description><![CDATA[ $85 a month.. and they're looking at raising them again..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 11:43:26 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I have a good Buddy who has lived in the same house since early 2002. In fact..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089602#msg-1089602</link><description><![CDATA[ My ex and I AAAALMOST built in the same Subdivision. He lucked out. Their HOA was only $25 a YEAR! In 22 years, it has gone up to only $75-$80 / year. They are not NAZIs or PITAs but they DO enforce simple stuff to fix.....Like CANS in the yard! They give one warning and then act. I went through that area about 4-5 years ago and it still looked very nice. That HOA is not gonna jump on someone who has a bare spot in the grass or some weeds. But they are not gonna tolerate a yard that is 75% dirt with 6 cars parked on it. They enforce just common sense / courtesy stuff. As simple as that HOA is, my Bud says there STILL have been people to file complaints because they were told to get their damned trash cans away from the curb three days after pick up. I tell ya.....People suck these days!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:35:46 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I have an HOA..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089598#msg-1089598</link><description><![CDATA[ And I think they're a bunch of idiots.. what they do best us raise HOA monthly fees.. it's doubled since I bought the house.. every year they threaten to close the pool in order to raise fees.. most people bought in my neighborhood for the pool, so it gets a little old to constantly have that thrown in your face..<br /><br />They change yard people frequently and don't enforce bad work.. I hafta leave the back gate unlocked every day cuz they never say then they're coming and the HOA doesn't require them to.. half the time I come home from work and the gate is closed and the yard unmowed.. I put a camera up and the yard people simply shut my gate, then claim I didn't open it for them, meaning I don't want them to mow..<br /><br />I've taped notebook paper size notes to their windshield (while parked in front of my house while mowing) to mow my back yard and seen them rip it off and throw it out.. HOA does nothing.. but good lord make an outdoor improvement they haven't approved and they pitch a fit.. funny thing is they are not a legal HOA.. so, they do what they want and refuse to do anything they don't want by constantly playing that card..<br /><br />Funny thing is every tear they want me to be HOA president lol.. no pay, no break on fees.. nothing.. no thanks..]]></description>
<dc:creator>sstrams</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:28:17 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>OH!! The &quot;neighbors&quot; with the cans in the yard...A week and a half ago..</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089593#msg-1089593</link><description><![CDATA[ They had a party with about 25 cars parked on every square foot of their yard and blocking the neighbors across the street from backing out with little room to spare. They also butchered a Pig and left the rotting remains in their garbage. I did not smell it but the neighbor across the street had the wind juuuuust right. When the approached the Summer's Eve people about it, they guy bowed up??]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
<category>Bucky's Pub</category><pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 09:59:32 -0400</pubDate></item>
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<title>I used to be totally against HOAs. These days, ALL for them!</title><link>https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?4,1089592,1089592#msg-1089592</link><description><![CDATA[ My street does not have one but I sure wish it did. Next door, I have a neighbor who is CONSTANTLY pulling trash from her car. She'll set it on and around the car. I'm talking 2-3 times a week. Often, she will leave garbage in the area for her, also grown / 60something Brother to pick up or her 92 year old Dad. The house next to them is a Rental (Say no more) They have had three orange soda cans sitting right in the middle of their front lawn for about 2 weeks.<br /><br />The Wife and I have often talked about remodeling our Kitchen, removing popcorn ceilings and a few other costly things. But we both have agreed to wait out the direction of our street. I am NOT gonna make the same mistake I did with my first house. Pour TONS of $$$$$ and heart n soul into it and then LOOSE a ton of money because the area gets infested with too many &quot;Summer's Eve&quot; POS people. The sweet lady who lives on the other side of us is in her mid 80s and in questionable health. The house next to her is for sale after it's Owner passed away. When we moved in 12 years ago, we were just one of 3 houses out of the 15 on the street who had not been here since they were built in 1981-83. Those numbers are fading.<br /><br />I LOVE LOVE our house. Already a TON of sweet memories. But I have told my Wife...If we move, we are OUT of Jacksonville and headed for the sticks. TOOOO many once great areas in this town are crashing n burning very fast.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ramgator</dc:creator>
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