What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks? I mean, what use is his speed if the Rams can't effectively deploy it?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113693#msg-1113693Mon, 15 Jun 2026 22:07:13 -0400 Phorum 5.2.18 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113775#msg-1113775 True, but you have to consider....https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113775#msg-1113775
As for Tutu, I had high hopes at first. I still have some hope but no where near as much today.]]> JamesJM RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 11:20:20 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113771#msg-1113771 Re: OK. But I'll ask again, How many successful 155 lb. guys in the NFL?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113771#msg-1113771
You seem to be splitting hairs regarding Tutu's size comparatively in the NFL. Like I said, he's on the lower edge. Maybe he is at the very bottom. I'd say that is more a compliment to Tutu than a slam.

I've mentioned before why I post on Tutu. Most of it is to battle the false narratives on this board. Haters gonna hate, but I will do my best to stick up for him. Posters have been wrong on him a lot including this year. To their dismay, he is still on the team, and, god-forbid that Atwell helps the Rams be successful this year. I'm glad you continue to pull for him, but it is easy to see that there is a board contingent that is absolutely not pulling for him. And IMHO that is just sad.

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Here's the deal... Your opinion and my opinion on Tutu doesnt matter. It's what Coach McVay's opinion is that does matter.
So far McVay has tried Tutu at a few places on the field. Apparanently McVay thinks there are better players at those same positions or Tutu would be on the field playing one of them. McVay is either unable or unwilling to come up with a special package of plays specifically for Tutu. Or if he has a package, he's been unwilling to showcase it to this point which keeps Tutu off the field. McVay has added additonal players to the WR room annually which has kept Tutu off of the field.
I can't help but say that Tutu is not on the "lower edge of NFL players in size", he almost certainly is at the very bottom.
Not sure why you've latched on to this kid to where you feel like it's a duty for you to defend all things "Tutu"? Everyone is entitled to think what they want, including you. For me, I've pulled for the kid since the day they way over-drafted him. I think pretty much everyone on this board wanted to see him succeed and provide positive impact on the field. After all, we are Rams fans.
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Ok. I apologize for the snarkiness, but I get upset for the guy because Rams fans are constantly casting shade on him.

He made the 53 and was not traded which had probably upset a few around here. He may have a future in kick returns and he may not.

I understand that he is small and is certainly on the lower edge of NFL players in size (his official weight is listed at 165 lbs). That is one of the reasons I back him because he is an underdog and he gets minimal support from the fan base.

I wish people would give him a chance to prove himself instead of making declaration that he a lemon or whatever.

Anyway, Go Rams!

Here's the deal... Your opinion and my opinion on Tutu doesnt matter. It's what Coach McVay's opinion is that does matter.
So far McVay has tried Tutu at a few places on the field. Apparanently McVay thinks there are better players at those same positions or Tutu would be on the field playing one of them. McVay is either unable or unwilling to come up with a special package of plays specifically for Tutu. Or if he has a package, he's been unwilling to showcase it to this point which keeps Tutu off the field. McVay has added additonal players to the WR room annually which has kept Tutu off of the field.
I can't help but say that Tutu is not on the "lower edge of NFL players in size", he almost certainly is at the very bottom.
Not sure why you've latched on to this kid to where you feel like it's a duty for you to defend all things "Tutu"? Everyone is entitled to think what they want, including you. For me, I've pulled for the kid since the day they way over-drafted him. I think pretty much everyone on this board wanted to see him succeed and provide positive impact on the field. After all, we are Rams fans.]]> PSJRam RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 10:47:49 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113754#msg-1113754 Re: This will be his 4th NFL seasonhttps://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113754#msg-1113754
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And he hasn't gotten "a chance"?

Head scratcher.

Not sure I understand your question. Sure the guy has had chances. He's performed well on many of his chances. He now gets another chance at kick returning. I was just saying, let's give him a chance to see what he can do with new opportunities. McVay and co are certainly willing to give him a chance in his contract year. He hasn't been cut or traded.]]> Shecky RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 10:26:44 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113748#msg-1113748 we don't know that he won'thttps://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113748#msg-1113748
Also I just saw a video on twitter with some of the Rams younger players dancing and celebrating 4 days until kickoff... Tutu was in that video.... AND FINALLY THIS GUY HAS PUT ON SOME MUSCLE. I didn't even recognize him

Maybe just maybe the days of me holding my breath anytime he was tacked are over. He no longer look like a little boy]]> Speed_Kills RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 09:52:57 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113744#msg-1113744 This will be his 4th NFL seasonhttps://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113744#msg-1113744
Head scratcher.]]> NewMexicoRam RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 09:41:47 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113740#msg-1113740 The games I watched/saw parts of.....https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113740#msg-1113740
I also think at this time of the season there is a lot of fluidity in the players and their roles.....especially in this new kicking format, I have heard Sean say several times it's a work in progress, for a lot of teams, including the RAMS.

The quick hits on Tutu are kinda funny, it's like..."Geez, the guy dropped a ball, he's gotta go"...."Did you see the socks he chose?...He's gotta go"......"he can't break the starting lineup (with Puka Kupp,Robinson)...He's gotta go"......LOL.....it almost looks like he lives in some of you guys heads......He's gonna make some plays this year...he always does, he's not chewing up a big % of cap space......is he going to help us more in 2024 as a role,spot player, or will that rd. 6/7 pick help us in 2024?]]> roman18 RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 08:56:33 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113739#msg-1113739 Re: What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113739#msg-1113739 Shecky RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 08:34:41 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113738#msg-1113738 Re: OK. But I'll ask again, How many successful 155 lb. guys in the NFL?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113738#msg-1113738
He made the 53 and was not traded which had probably upset a few around here. He may have a future in kick returns and he may not.

I understand that he is small and is certainly on the lower edge of NFL players in size (his official weight is listed at 165 lbs). That is one of the reasons I back him because he is an underdog and he gets minimal support from the fan base.

I wish people would give him a chance to prove himself instead of making declaration that he a lemon or whatever.

Anyway, Go Rams!]]> Shecky RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 08:32:24 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113737#msg-1113737 Re: What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113737#msg-1113737
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Jourdan said this, "Never put too much stock in the team-released depth charts each year, but one Rams item merited followup - Sean McVay confirms that Blake Corum may possibly return kicks. Group has also included Jordan Whittington, Tutu Atwell. McVay said earlier Kyren Williams will return punts."

Trying to read between the lines here ... when Jourdan is talking about Corum, Whitt, and Tutu returning kinks is she lumping kickoffs and punts together? Or is she saying these three guys are in the mix for returning kickoffs only?

Not trying to be a Richard Cranium, btw - just looking for clarification on what might (or might not) be something of significance.

And what prompted my question ... therams.com has a depth chart that shows Williams as the punt returner and Corum and Whitt as the kickoff returners. [www.therams.com] Maybe all Jourdan is saying is that Tutu is in the mix for kickoffs?

Here's a snap from the site I mentioned:

[attachment 12000 depth.png]]]> AlbaNY_Ram RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 08:26:02 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113733#msg-1113733 OK. But I'll ask again, How many successful 155 lb. guys in the NFL?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113733#msg-1113733So, rather than to get snarky, just answer the question: Objectively, how many successful 155 lb. players in today's NFL? If the answer is none (which I think it is), then to place a bet on someone being a mini-unicorn is not the best decision. Is he an OK football player? Sure. But, he is nothing special and that makes him pretty limited and replaceable.

That said, McVay clearly sees value and I have to respect that. As of today, my guess as to his value is that he is experienced and doesn't make route running mistakes, and so his presence as a 4th or 5th WR gives time for the younger guys to develop and/or prove themselves.]]> RockRam RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 07:39:09 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113732#msg-1113732 I remember Jourdan saying that Sheckyhttps://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113732#msg-1113732
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Jourdan said this, "Never put too much stock in the team-released depth charts each year, but one Rams item merited followup - Sean McVay confirms that Blake Corum may possibly return kicks. Group has also included Jordan Whittington, Tutu Atwell. McVay said earlier Kyren Williams will return punts."

Some of you guys can't help yourselves in being Richards.

I remember Jourdan saying that Shecky. Great counter! :thumbsup

Also, lol'd at the "Richards" reference! Thanks! :beercan]]> Ramsdude RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 07:37:37 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113728#msg-1113728 Re: Too small, and it's just not his forte.https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113728#msg-1113728 Shecky RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 07:21:07 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113726#msg-1113726 Too small, and it's just not his forte.https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113726#msg-1113726Receiving and returning kicks is a specialty, and not everyone can do it to a high level. He can't. He has been tried and what happens is that 1) he gets hurt, and 2) he doesn't produce.

That said, who knows? Maybe they are going to be trying him yet again. But... I have heard zip about that and if anyone might have an inkling that this is going to happen it's Jourdan... and she hasn't said so. And there is NO reason for McVay to keep it a secret.]]> RockRam RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 06:59:34 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113725#msg-1113725 Re: What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113725#msg-1113725 OhioRamsFan RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 06:09:57 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113724#msg-1113724 Re: What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113724#msg-1113724
Some of you guys can't help yourselves in being Richards.]]> Shecky RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 05:46:41 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113702#msg-1113702 Same reason as why some men aren’t good dancers?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113702#msg-1113702 Rams43 RamsFootballFans.comThu, 05 Sep 2024 01:11:20 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113697#msg-1113697 Re: Rams should just throw in the towel…https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113697#msg-1113697 kw13 RamsFootballFans.comWed, 04 Sep 2024 23:42:06 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113695#msg-1113695 Rams should just throw in the towel…https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113695#msg-1113695 Ridgewood Ram RamsFootballFans.comWed, 04 Sep 2024 23:39:46 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113694#msg-1113694 Could be this.....https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113694#msg-1113694 NewMexicoRam RamsFootballFans.comWed, 04 Sep 2024 23:29:06 -0400 https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113693#msg-1113693 What's Wrong With Tutu Atwell That He Can't Return Kicks?https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,1113693,1113693#msg-1113693 Classicalwit RamsFootballFans.comWed, 04 Sep 2024 23:20:13 -0400