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It is obvious McVay is a great coach and Fisher is not., Cant see any arguement in that,by

I 1975 he took a 2 and 12 team and made then 12 and 4. The only plus players were Brent Jones and Lydell Mitchell, Ted stunned the league with the turn around. No hall of farmers or even regular all stars on the roster. So the claim about no turn arounds with out a stocked roster is BS.by

Never heard that about him.by

I feel you but I think the D is where we make the most gain. Learn to shut down the run. Scratch that. Slow down the run.by

And McCarthy which I can see but jeez. allow Rodgers to be mortal.by

Saints just pummeled the now 5-4 Bengals 51 to 14. And against playoff contenders we already are pretty much are scoring 35+by

Took the Seahags in my pool so I am mildly happy.by

All teams would benefit from improving their red zone percentage. I dont agree we NEED to, I do not feel it is a precondition of winning an SB. As far as our defense ranking that is another case in point where not all teams schedules are equal. Nor what their opponent strength was at the time . Our defense did well against raiders, cardinals, 49ers (minus Jimmy G) and broncos. All others nby

Okay. how do you propose to raise the pct. based on your math (which I do not doubt) the issue in comparison to the saints is the run. Is it the oline or gurley then? Or should we expect Goff to outgun Brees? Or do we need a big physical receiver that is not on the roster so why even talk about this? And since our points are right there with the elites then we must be much better scoring outsby

On its own trying to compare to other teams does not mean a whole lot since we do not know the scenarios. As I stated before Goff and Brees have the same number of red zone TDs. I do not know what the rushing TDS are but I would not be surprised if they are similar. Yet the variance between the Saints and Rams RZ TD percentage is 16 percent. Lots of people on this thread opined it may be tby

Didnt mean anything by that. Just one of those for the records comment.by

I understand odds. I understand that the odds of scoring from first and one is far greater than from 4th and 19. I understand that the RZ stat does not take that into account. I also know that no NFL team has been in the red zone hundreds of times in 10 games. I know that Todd Gurley could have scored a TD but sat it down because of game situtation. A situation that does not occur for every tby

Your presumption needs to be proven also. Prove it to me. Show me the statistics otherwise just more meaningless blather. As far as odds do the permutations of down distance inside the 20 weighted by historical success rates in each of those instances. Just math. The permutations alone out weigh the average number of trips a team has made in the RZ in 10 games. And people do take intoby

Your assumption is no way safe. The simple fact that teams have a huge disparity in red zone trips lends itself that teams can have a very varied distribution. In fact I find it high;y unlikely after 10 games there are not wide divergencies. Oh and far as completion pct length of throw is usually also taken into account. And not all QBS throw the same number of 20+ throws. There are plentby

No they do not just magically iron out. That would be a pure assumption. If your red zone experience start with 1st and goal from the one well that is a heck of a lot better than one that was inside the 20 but on 4th down. Goff has thrown for 16 TD and 2 int in red zone in 60 some attempts. Drew Brees in 60 some attempts has throw 16 TDs and 0 ints. If I assume similar attempts means simiby

So what you are saying is that the odds of scoring for the one yard line is the same as starting from the 20? That is the only way it would be a consistent measure.by

I'll see your RZ middle of the pack stat and raise you the Rams have the least 3 and outs in the league. This translates to advantages in time of possession and field position. Which paints the defensive results in an even more odious light.by

Its our league worse run defense. Too many 3rd and short situations.by

Potentially you are giving the opponent one less possession in the 1st half. Since our D seems to play horrible in the 1st half that could limit the damage a bit.by

When you look at it. Only other candidate is probable interior OL. All teams have injuries. Chiefs I beleive are missing two OL.by

Rams best them on defense in points allowed and yardage allowed. And in the case of the saints they have played one less game. Basically they all should be concerned with their defense.by

I tend to agree with accepting the coin flipby

Was declaring the red zone at the 20 yard is completely arbitrary. Why not the 25 or the 15? What are the teams stats at those distances? What if at 15 yards the Rams have the best percentage but are at the middle of the pack at the 20. What would that mean?by

What are the odds of scoring starting from the one yard line vs the 20 yard line? If they are not the same then grouping them together does not make sense.by

At least that is the way it was reported Signing Suh, Talib and Peters Trading Ogletree and Quinn Believing in Sam E and Littleton Franchising Joyner (Otherwise we keep Watkins and our 1st rounder) IMO Wade owns thisby

Surprised it took so long for Santos to get another shot. He kicked well for the Chiefs and essentially lost his job due to injuryby

Cooks is 6th in league in yardage. He's doing his part. I think Reynolds and the TES need to make up for Kupp lose.by