QuoteSpeed_Kills I could see them renegotiating If they can renegotiate I'd soften my stance on moving on from him. Right now I'm assuming his salary is as is. My question is, what's wrong with plan B being the guy we drafted last year who also showed well in his snaps. I'm currently doing a deeper dive in Brockers vs JFM production but my impression throughout the year was that JFM was provby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach That is what the Rams brass is going to have to deal with... We'll see what Rams brass thinks but JFM is ready to step up into that role already IMO. Obviously they'll need more depth but this draft is perfect for that. Besides whether it creates a hole isn't the question for me. I'm a firm believer that you don't significantly overpay players and in Brockers case you have aby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit QuotehubestarBut this means that the Rams may need 2 new linemen to play with Aaron if they waive Brockers and do not resign Suh That would be a recipe for disaster and a surefire way to give the division to the Seahawks or 49ers. JFM outplayed him IMO.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram You however demonstrate a number of notable differences. You note that 1. The rams were successful this year in part BECAUSE of Goff and not inspite of him. 2. Goff has performed better than average overall 3. Goff has a high ceiling and 4. Becoming a successful NFL QB is a typically a process. Quotedzrams I’m a big fan of Goff and think he has a very high ceiling bby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I’m a big fan of Goff and think he has a very high ceiling but at this stage of his development I would say that he needs a lot of protection (maybe not max), he’s not at a place where he can really put the team on his shoulders and win games on his own, he does get flustered under heavy pressure, and then he starts hurrying throws and sometimes fumbles in those situations. None of that meansby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram As a team leader Brockers might contribute more than what we see on the field. I think his performance this year overall was average and below previous years. He’s getting paid too much to merely be average. Last year AO was a captain and said to be the “heart and soul” of the defense. They traded him and were fine. They have a strong culture and other leaders on D. Theyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool Quotedzrams I like the overall plan. And you even had a preemptive strike argument! lol...I'm glad you took that in stride. You're right I am going to have to say that Mack Wilson is unlikely. You're right in that Wade isn't picking the players but the type of GM Snead is and the way McVay has delegated the D to Wade, I don't see a Shane Ray situation happening. I'd look for ILBby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Brown barely got any touches when Gurley was healthy. Hell he barely got them when Gurley wasn't healthy (Chief, Lions game) It wasn't until McVay's hand was forced that he sat Gurley and inserted 12 personnel and began to commit to the run Brown was hurt in the Lions game... Gurley played hurt in the Lions game. Gurley had no business even playing in either game againstby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool I decided 2 years I was going to change the way I operated as far as my half assed scouting. I would still do 3 mocks, but it would be post senior bowl, post combine, and pre-draft. Im not a website, so I don't need hits so I don't need to change my rankings or my mocks week to week for ad revenue. And to be honest, anyone that gets the draft process knows that players don't "rby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills let CJ walk.. and I love CJ... how he cared himself and how smart he is but I think I'd go with Brown... unless someone could talk me out of it lol CJ was more effective in his short time than Gurley was. Fact. I believe in his 5 games he averaged approx. 5.5 ypc. That's phenomenal! He and Brown aren't on the same level. If results don't convince you, nothing will.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills First keep in mind starting RBs don’t get big money not named Gurley So if you're CJ and you had the 4 games stretch he did with the Rams that changes things. He will have a chance to start for sure I have always been higher on Brown than most of you guys. He has quick feet and I love his burst and strength. The Eagles would love to have a Malcolm Brown. The 49ers, Buby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn QuoteSpeed_Kills Im talking about the games he had against good teams with top flight d coordinators which were beyond bad And specificallly down the stretch this year where he looked like it was too big for him All of that should be clear and IMO to reduce the conversation to every QB has bad games is disingenuous Don't assume you know Ryan's history without actually exploring thby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
It seems we're on the same page for quite a bit on this edge issue. A couple of attempted answers, further thoughts, and questions for you in order... I don't see Ford as a one year wonder because in 2016 he had 10 sacks, 12 TFL, and 17 QB hits... he was getting to the QB then. Last year he got hurt. I suspect as you do that KC may have trouble affording both Houston and Ford. If Housby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Im talking about the games he had against good teams with top flight d coordinators which were beyond bad And specificallly down the stretch this year where he looked like it was too big for him All of that should be clear and IMO to reduce the conversation to evey QB has bad games is disingenuous I understand what you're talking about. And again, I have to ask, is thby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam_Ruler Do you go for a premium edge guy in the draft/free agency or do you re-sign Fowler and look at more "quality" guys in free agency/draft (like a Jalen Jelks in round 4)? Would you rather see Ogbonnia Okoronkwo before drafting new edge rushers? If the Rams doubled down on their roster / free agents (maybe minus Joyner and Barron) do you think we'd still be good enough for aby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Goff is often compared to Ryan stylistically. I think Ryan is better mentally and mechanically when things are breaking down Is this a function of experience? I don't think Ryan started this way.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam49 He is always looking for the deep ball. There were many crossing routes open last night he simple went to deep flags and outs with Cooks primarily. I can't re-watch the game and likely never will....but I saw it live. It was bad. That is where I fault Jared.....but I honestly think he is coached into that....McVay hasn't completely embraces a West Coast offense. To jemach's pointby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDeadpool a team or 2 that just has their number. Just look at the Fisher Rams vs the Carroll Seahawks. The Hawks were SB contenders every year and yet those 7-9 Rams team found ways to beat them every year. The more I think about it, the more the injury to TGII really limited some of the stuff McVay could do in the passing game. And with Kupp out it was made worse. I also think Sullyby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram Didn't wade draft him in the 1st round as a nt? Williams was drafted by the Broncos in 2013. That year Wade was the DC for the Texans. Players he drafted that year: #57 - DJ Swearinger, S #95 - Sam Montgomery, DE #124 - Trevardo Williams, DE/OLB #198 - Chris Jones, DTby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills C’mon 2k Right now off the top of my head I’m taking the following over Goff Mahomes Rivers Brady Luck Foles Wentz (based on talent) Rodgers Stafford Wilson Ryan Probably Cam Newton Brees Watson? If I needed to win a game against a really good defense I think I would slot Goff behind Watson who is also young and Cam I have him just outside the top 10 abouby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Barkely McCaffrey Kamara That being said there is something that Gurley doesn’t do that the PFF stats don’t like I’m telling you guys he runs more than anyone in those 3 WR sets. I’m betting he gets marked down because he doesn’t run well in traffic or inside And thats why McVay split carries with CJ... you can’t just have a RB that runs outside zone If more time goby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn You see one part I see another. We also can't have a discussion if someone like me says "no qb plays well under that much pressure" and I am met with "why are you denying Goff played poorly." Meanwhile you get nothing, IMO, out of defending Harris. He's not worth it. I like RB's take on that: I agree with you that what you see is an issue too. That's whatby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Couple of things I hope to see from AD in ‘19: A little less focus on his sack total. And more emphasis on his run D. Now, don’t get me wrong. I love his effort and results. But I do think that sometimes his pursuit of sacks actually has hurt the overall D. As evidence I offer the playoff run of our overall D this year. No sacks for AD but the run D and scoring D was phenoby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
I would love to see more discussion on "different views on why Goff stumbled, and to what extent, and how much it affected the loss, and how much of it was him, and what it means." My call for us to be less defensive is for the purpose of having a real debate about real things. How can we have a real debate on Goff if when I say "Goff played horrible" someone comes baby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram when i say "we get it" if ones considers such a statement as a personal attack then im at a loss for words. When I say the poster was attacked I didn't mean a "personal attack" that is forbidden; I meant that his opinion was invalidated and tossed aside on the basis that he is a Goff hater and possibly trolling the board rather than debating the merits ofby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRAMbler EVERYONE is saying Goff had a bad game.... "BUT" he is NOT the only reason the Rams O was bad. Just wow..... I'm just pointing out that I see an incredibly high level of defensiveness when discussing him. And literally NO ONE is saying he's the only reason the Rams O was bad.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn Quotedzrams Quoteden-the-coach Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start????? First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out it means the pby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach Was bad in his first couple of starts with Cal, became a first overall pick. Was bad in his first several starts with the Los Angeles Rams became an all pro...Was bad in his first Super Bowl start????? First I gotta say, man people are so defensive about Goff. It's like people can't say that Goff played badly. And when people point that out it means the poster doesn't like Gby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Saffold extends. Maybe 80% likely. Big Whit is literally 50%, IMO. Sully 60% to start on opening day. But only 25% to be starting C by season’s end. One of Allen, Blythe, or draft pick to be starter by December. Boom very possibly our starting RG by December if Whit stays. Definitely our starting LT if Whit retires. IOW, Boom is a starter on our OL next year, one way or anothby dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com
Since Goff was a top 10 pick, his 5th year option salary will be equal to the salary of the Transition Tender for QBs in 2019. And this salary is calculated by finding the average of the top 10 highest paid QBs for 2018. My guess is it will be around $21M.by dzrams - RamsFootballFans.com