We know that the Rams collectively performed poorly. We can go through and point to each individual symptom of their collective poor performance as the reasons. Cooper's miscues, Gurley's drops, Goff's unusual number of off target passes, the second half defense, HIgbee's drop, Watkins drop, McVay's play calling, etc. There's a veritable potpourri of issues to choose from. But the question iby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
They don't explain the Rams getting beat worse in the second half where there were no Cooper mistakes than they did in the first half. And yes, Cooper did play last week against the 9ers..........as a starting WR for the first time all season. Played 64 snaps, by far the most of the season for him. He certainly practiced differently that week because of it too. A change in process for Coopby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram Every team in the league plays 4 teams that finished first in their division, 4 teams that finished second in their division, 4 teams that finished third in their division, and 4 teams that finished fourth in their division. The Rams' "crossover" games are both against first place teams (Philly, NO) ... but that is just to balance out the fact that the other NFC Westby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit I don't get it. Pretty sure he's talking about how Gurley was allegedly spotted out at a nightclub at 2am Friday night/Saturday morning before the game and then was apparently right back out clubbing only a couple hours after losing the game.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
It was only 680 words! I'm not talking about being right or wrong about it myself. I'm talking about troubleshooting his strategy and diagnosing the most likely reason they failed in the Falcons game in ways unlike they had all season.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
The Falcons game was the first time all season they lost both halves of a game on the scoreboard. It's also the only game of the season where all three phases let them down. Offense, defense and special teams. And, most importantly according to the Trust McVay Theory, it's the first time they lost all season going in with a distinct fresh and health advantage over their opponent. Finaby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams_81 lesser prior to Martz and by a considerable margin. Bruce faded after Martz left and resurrected after Martz returned. Warner would never have developed into a great player and most likely would have been a Goff from last year player if he had never hooked up with Martz. Faulk had one of the greatest seasons in NFL history the year before he joined the Rams. 3 time Pro Bowleby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Is to fail. In this case, it's failing to compete. That's exactly what happened. They tanked the 49ers game as part of a strategy intended to sacrifice it for an advantage in their playoff game. Not really debatable. But if you don't like the word, you're free to call it something else. Doesn't matter what word you use for not preparing for or playing to win. That's what they did.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Warner proved his greatness outside of Martz. Faulk did too. Bruce too. Holt too. ALL of them did.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Is there something else that happens at CATCH after midnight that I'm not aware of?by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
That doesn't mean it is the culprit, it just means it's the most rational explanation. It's important first to differentiate a tank week strategy from a bye week. They are NOT the same thing despite many conflating them as such in most of the arguments that continue to defend the "fresh and healthy" theory that demonstrably failed on Saturday night. Going into the 49ers game therby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRam Fan Teacher You're right. It was Saunders not White. It wasn't small adjustments to Vermeil's previous offense. Martz brought his offensive philosophy with him and took the 99 offense to an all new level. Nothing in the previous year's offense would remind anyone of the 1999 offense. I remember Vermeil talking about how he took Mike Martz's offense with him to KC. He knew it woulby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
He's averaged 48 receptions for 763 yards and 6 TD's over his 4 seasons. Were you a Kenny Britt apologist too? He averaged 50 receptions for 810 yards and 4 TD's over his 3 seasons with the Rams. This is the kind of objective production you want to argue for, be my guest. I have higher standards, especially for a player drafted 4th overall that a team gave up a ton to move up and get tby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Rams played other quality defenses such as Jacksonville, Philly, New Orleans, Seattle, and were effective against them. But at home all fresh and healthy they struggled against the Falcons.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemoklerman But by your logic, Vermeil shouldn't deserve credit because look at his other teams. He couldn't win it in Philly or KC. Which is beside the point. The 1999 Rams won because of the offense and the offense was because of Mike Martz. Again, I'm not really sure why you're trying to marginalize what's relatively undisputed among most others? Especially Rams fans, players and cby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Martz's system was the same "system" the Rams had run before Martz and Vermeil always ran. That's not an opinion. Vermeil didn't copy the system in KC, he ran the system he knew and preferred there with Al Saunders, not White, who had also always run that system. It wasn't Martz's system. But Martz did put his own touch on it, as all OC's do, and that was largely because he hadby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
A first place schedule should theoretically be harder than a last place schedule. That is, after all, why the league does it like they do. It's just that it doesn't always work out that way in the end. This, I think, everybody also knows.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
2000 Ravens defense was THE reason they won the Super Bowl that year. The 85 Bears were a very good team on both sides of the ball. But in some ways the opposite of the Rams GSOT days, they failed to win any additional Super Bowls as their offense slipped despite their defense remaining awesome for a few more years. But the reasons those teams did or didn't do things is irrelevant to what hby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams What are you referring to? You keep stating that Watkins hasn't been productive in his career. My question is, which year are you referring to? 2014 and 2015 where he essentially had 1000 yard seasons with 15 TDs in that period? Or 2016 where he had 430 yards in half a season? Or this year where he scored 8 TDs? Let me know so I can follow along because right now, I'm nby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Your three big reasons tell me what happened, not why. They turned the ball over a couple times. They didn't run Gurley enough. The defense got run on. ALL of those things happened during the regular season in games too. Yes, that's what happened. Why did they die this time when they didn't before?by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemoklerman Quote9er8er Is attributing the Super Bowl win exclusively to the offense rather than share it with the top 5 defense and best special teams in the NFL. "His" offense was part of the reason, an important part, but not THE reason.C'mon, how can you argue that that team didn't run through the offense? Huge leads allowed the defense to play from an incredible position ofby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCROMWELL21 Pharoh Cooper kept our defense on the field for nearly nine straight minutes. Cooper caused the score to change from 6-0 to 13-0. The Rams would have been leading at half and entering the fourth. Their defense would have been fresh. Aaron Donald had to be sat for plays as he was exhausted. If Cooper doesn't fumble, the Rams defense is at normal tiredness and the Rams only scorby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Is attributing the Super Bowl win exclusively to the offense rather than share it with the top 5 defense and best special teams in the NFL. "His" offense was part of the reason, an important part, but not THE reason.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
You said what happened, the patient died. You didn't explain why it happened. OD'd on tanking?by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Maybe that had something to do with it.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
They probably don't win the Super Bowl that year. Although there are other good OC's that could have done great things with that talent. Same is true about Bunting's/Guinta's top 5 defense. Without that defense, they lose to Tampa Bay in the NFC Championship game and probably also lose in the Super Bowl itself. The difference, of course, is that Bunting/Guinta didn't go on to destroy whby 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
With a good QB in a good offensive system. Watkins, once again, did not. That's the obvious difference. You should have come around on Woods because he showed you what he can do in a good environment. And....so did Watkins. You just aren't willing to accept it is all.by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Didn't win us a Super Bowl. In fact, if it had been up to him, Paul Justin or Jeff Hostetler would have been there instead of Kurt Warner in 1999. Dick Vermeil won us a Super Bowl. Martz contributed as did the Bunting/Guinta combo of Defensive Coordinators. But it could certainly be argued Martz lost us a Super Bowl!by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
I'd like to know how long you're not going to know what to tell people about a QB people are not looking to replace. Proper planning demands it!by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com
Hmmm, that last game against the 49ers would have provided a perfect opportunity to do that and work on other things that needed polishing going into the playoffs. But hey, we were rested!by 9er8er - RamsFootballFans.com