QuoteLMU93 To me the best part of this deal is it is an extension beyond 2020. The deal does not change his salary/numbers for 2019 (~$4.3M salary) or 2020 (the $22.8M 5th year option). Then the new deal kicks in. That's how the $161M/ $26.7M avg. comes together. By the time he is in year one of that extension there will be 4-6 other QBs who have seen new and bigger deals. Th way to do theby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam There are some who look at the mind boggling mega deals like Goff's and Elliott's and say "the market is the market". I don't entirely disagree. However, the same goes for NFL ownership and the League in general: "the market is the market" when it comes to the number of games, ticket prices, and all the avenues of revenue. Salaries and revenue go hand in handby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram not sure i would call it a reach cuz he basically went where he was projected to go by many observers (even those who doubted his talent). imo hes also not quite a "bust" as he is in the league and starting i guess (although his job seems a a bit tenuous given that he was cut and resigned. "bad decision" does seem to appropriate as it def was not a good decision.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotepromomasterj It's fun and all and there's no real football to talk about until this weekend, but all the hand-wringing and teeth gnashing about who's gonna make the group of tackling dummies is pretty amusing. There are 320 of these guys around the league right now - not good enough to even be on the active roster. And what's the chance that one of them makes the jump from PS to active roby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Yup. Still, curious move to expose your LOT. That doesn’t happen to quality players at that position. He wasn't exposed though. He's a vested veteran so that wasn't waivers. For someone else to sign him, he would have to want to go along with it. So odds are, he was in on this all along. He knew he was going to be cut tempoby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePHDram bust, reach or whatever you want to call it. was picking GRob at 2 a good selection, a bad selection, or I guess we can throw neutral in there? What he was to the Rams isn't what he is in himself. In himself, he took a while to get going but he's a starter. You do not call starters busts, unless you want the word bust to have no meaning. When I said he was a reach for theby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Yup. Still, curious move to expose your LOT. That doesn’t happen to quality players at that position. He wasn't exposed though. He's a vested veteran so that wasn't waivers. For someone else to sign him, he would have to want to go along with it. So odds are, he was in on this all along. He knew he was going to be cut temporarily and re-sigby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_CamusIt's always a little curious to me that the Rams usually add 1 brand new player at the beginning of the year rather than bring up one of their PS guys that have been with them for months When they do that, the guys they bring in are not rookies--usually 2 year vets. They deliberately add a guy like that to the mix, it's good line building (recent ones: Blythe and Neary). Coby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Quotezn Quotemax Yup. Still, curious move to expose your LOT. That doesn’t happen to quality players at that position. He wasn't exposed though. He's a vested veteran so that wasn't waivers. For someone else to sign him, he would have to want to go along with it. So odds are, he was in on this all along. He knew he was going to be cut temporarily and re-signed. Why him?by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Yup. Still, curious move to expose your LOT. That doesn’t happen to quality players at that position. He wasn't exposed though. He's a vested veteran so that wasn't waivers. For someone else to sign him, he would have to want to go along with it. So odds are, he was in on this all along. He knew he was going to be cut temporarily and re-signed. Why him? Chances areby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteBeachBoy Apparently, read on SI, he was just cut by the Browns It was a temporary procedural move. He re-signed.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus especially the 4 WR run from bunch sets which would give crazy angles and quik releases for WRs and QB to make quik throws... even spread the WRs out more - ala Detroit's Mouse Davis/Barry Sanders days...and see what can explode. Use McVay's "same look" concepts for all 3 groupings(10,11, 12) so ALL plays look the same just from 3 different groupings...runs, Pby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camusbut Wolford's accuracy caught me off guard this PS...and he hung in the pocket much longer than I would think... then threw dimes with guys in his face or rolling out. We'll see if he develops...Wolford's a small guy but he's got the moxie of a poor man's Mayfield...QuoteRams43 I see his potential value in ‘20 and beyond as the #2 QB. McVay will develop JW to be all that hby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Who’s “smearing” work habits here? It's pretty reasonable (if not also unavoidable) to take this that way: QuoteRams43JFM is now exhibit A for the importance of all players going all out at all times.. QuoteRams43Not an effort, study, practice, desire thing? A lot of assumptions there. Meanwhile we do know that (a) he weighed more in 2019 than 2018, and (b) he was not aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 So, it’s a weight thing, zn? Not an effort, study, practice, desire thing? Don’t you imagine that the Ram coaches would have been able to determine if it was just a weight thing and counseled JFM to lose the excess? And made appropriate allowances at cutdown time? Would seem to be coaching 101 to me. Nope, JFM just got outplayed this preseason and presumably in practices andby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSunTzu_vs_Camus ...as I'm just a simple fan...as we all are.... and have opinions that are neither here nor there.....just opinions. However, Reader does remind me of Mike Hull from that scouting report...and a bit of that type of player that I'm not a fan of...Lawler, Morgan Fox, JFMeyers, etc types. I just don't like their game - athletically. The staff likes them so that's all thatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAtlantic Ram He looked like an overweight Robert Quinn. JFM was no longer as effective with added weight. He weighed less in 2018.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quoteden-the-coach Eric Henderson is the new Defensive Line Coach and Tanzel Smart took to the new Coach and improved in many areas, wheras JFM did not and did not look good in preseason and must have been the same in training camp. The return of Morgan Fox also played into the equation. Coach Henny is an upgrade IMO over Bill Johnson from the first two years, so I trust the evaluatby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteCraigMatson He had Talent ,,,I'm thinking two possibilities. One he did not push himself hard enough this camp . Two he didn't engender himself very well with Brockers , Donald , Ebucan , Matthews , Wade or Joe Barry to get some mentoring on how he could improve. If either or both were real problems it would be fairly fatal . He would be regressing without having a good understanding ofby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteClassicalwit Our boys better be carrying stones in their pockets, ZN for methinks opposing offenses will attack the middle of the defense incessantly. Gentleman's bet? (Ie no real money). Rams are top 10 in yards allowed rushing in the middle I win, not top 10 you win. Stats from Football Outsiders, which measures yards per carry outside and inside.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotesstrams I mean all your doggie posts and stuff are cool, but I particularly liked this one.. :sst Yeah I like that one. ...by zn - Bucky's Pub
QuoteClassicalwit But at least you have Donald and Brockers both of whom are young talented starters. By contrast ILB is a crapshoot with an undersized starter (Littleton) and a bunch of question marks. The MO position in Wade's defense is a coverage LB and has always been that size in his system. Littleton fits it perfectly. So did Barron. On the other ILB, the MIKE. Having question marksby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJimYoungblood53 will be interesting to see if he's a good backup there or not The Jets run a 4/3 D. I have heard people say that J F-M was better suited at 4/3 DE than either 3/4 DE or 3/4 OLB. He was supposed to be a 3/4 DE with the Rams this year and didn't work out. It would not be a shock if he's better at 4/3 DE. ...by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM :laughing Well, doesn't bother me... one of those units will be the 'weakest'... which doesn't equate to 'weak'. Sure seems to me we all agree the ILB and OLB's are the biggest worry, in that going in there seems to be the biggest question marks about their ability play at an elite D level. Bit of a tangent.. seems to me in the last few years that what I think of as 'leastby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Well, “weakest” is a very relative term here. I went through that list twice and was very impressed with each at the starter positions. Except ILB. And even there I don’t see “weakness”, just less than stellar beyond Littleton until proven otherwise. I see an amazing blend of vets and youth throughout this roster. I wouldn't say "weakest." They do have 2 units wiby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteoldschoolramfan So, why was Houston so eager to part with Clowney? Could it be that they are tired of waiting for Clowney to become that dominating force? Don't get me wrong.....Clowney is a starting NFL player, but he's frequently injured and does not play like a #1 pick. I mean, he's been playing opposite JJ Watt and has not put up historical stats. Correct? There's a thousand reby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 And that's ok. They want 3-4 core special teams guys and to them he earned it. Reeder got the green sticker and was lining guys up. Allen never did. He wasn't ready for that. But they do like Allen, reportedly, and want him back for the p-s. So he could yet develop that way.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Same type of guy. No quick twitch. Just a plodder. Franklin -Myers was quicker before he gained weight to play straight-up 3/4 DE. He wasn't a "plodder" last year.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotezn . It looks to me like the way they answered that, they could bring back one of the RBs they cut. More on that: QuoteVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore I do not think the #Rams are completely set yet at RBby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote3030 QuoteRams43 (On only keeping three running backs and if that was to improve the depth at other positions) Snead: “Yes. We’ve got a couple of things that could explain that a little bit later down the road. We’ll keep that in-house for right now.” McVay: “I think you’ll get some clarity just because of some moves that we may or may not make. What the heck should we make of THAT?by zn - RamsFootballFans.com