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May 28, 2020 08:23AM
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I don't expect a top-5 OL. Or top-10. But also don't expect a bottom 5-10 unit either. And really, if they're somewhere in the middle (15th-ish) that just might be good enough.

A 15th-ish OL ranking is concerning to me. I don't believe we have the QB that thrives in those conditions. To get good things out of Goff, he has to be kept clean and I don't know if a middle of the pack OL can do that. I think we have to hope, or at least I am, that they have the pieces for a top-10 OL.

None of the individual parts seem destined for above-average but it looks like all of them can be at least average. If they are, and if they work well together, and stay healthy, maybe the whole can be greater than the sum of its parts.

Disagree. I think Goff can do well with that kind of solid, middle of the pack OL. I think he already has, though it was a brief glimpse. The OL in the last 3 games was ranked 16th (got that from a post on here). How did Goff do in the final 3 games? Which includes a bad Rams game against Dallas but it includes a good one against SF (except for the D in the final minutes).

Goff in those games: 62.6% completions, 7 TDs, 2 INTs, 92.4 qb rating. That's not bad. It's not 2017-18 but it's not bad. And that's without a running game and him throwing an avg. of 47.3 times a game.

He was pressured 24 times in those games, including 11 against SF.

In terms of Goff as a qb under pressure, PFF ranked him 14th.

Another stat source ranked him 13th.

That info is here: [ramsrule.com]

Three games offers just a hint or suggestion BUT it also corresponds with what I have seen from him.

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The 62.6% completions, 7 TDs, 2 INTs, 92.4 qb rating line is not bad. It's average. If that's what he did over the full 2019 season, he would have been ranked 14th in QB rating.

I don't call that thriving. I call that merely ok. But not enough to win. I feel we need better than a middle tier QB to be a contender.

7 TDs is not average. Across 16 games that's 37 which would have been first in the league last year.

I call that doing just fine considering at the time they had no running game and were starting 3 inexperienced injury replacements on the OL. I assume they do better in the passing game with a more experienced OL, a running game, and maybe some adjusting by McVay.

Adjusting by McVay? For example things like this.

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from [seahawkswire.usatoday.com]

“As the NFL has transitioned to more of a quick passing game by default, the seven-step drop is almost a thing of the past,” Farrar writes. “Jared Goff was the only quarterback in 2019 with more than 50 attempts on seven-step drops (68)”

Maybe they build in a decent medium/short passing game and stress the OL less on those 7 step drops.

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  Thats fair...

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  bottom line

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LMU93168May 28, 2020 09:44AM

  +1

zn137May 28, 2020 11:32AM

  think the scheme helped Oline a lot in 17 and 18

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  difference was lack of run game - 25th in league rushing

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  couldn't be any worse than last year

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  but it can be a LOT better

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