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the QB is still the most important player
Of course, its never just the QB, but there are certainly different degrees of QB and Mahomes is at the highest degree.
Take the highest degree of QB and put him in an ideal situation and you get the Chiefs offense. The question is, is that stoppable by a great defense under the current rules?
I don't think we know yet. We haven't seen this landscape before. The closest thing to Mahomes talent in recent memory is the Rodgers of 10 years ago. I think the rules have even changed a bit since then to aid the passing game and QBs. I also believe Mahomes is more clutch than Rodgers. I haven't checked the stats. I do know that the 2010 Steelers D that Rodgers beat in the SB was the top D that year, first in pts allowed and 2nd in yards.
blue bit--And no one denied that. You're really not arguing with anyone.red-bit--Like Archie Manning? It's never only the qb.
And the Rams beat the Chiefs so yeah it can be done.
It's like you're protective of Mahomes, so any time anyone says anything you take as slighting him in any way, you rush to his defense.
As far as great qbs go, Rodgers? In his prime he won one superbowl. Then lost in the playoffs for 6 straight years. And that's still better than Marino did, who was probably better than Rodgers. Neither had the team. Rodgers probably never had the coach.
Whenever anyone says it's never just the qb, that's so true there really is seldom any point to arguing with it.
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Who said I'm arguing? That was just a general statement that I assume everyone knows and was using as a stepping stone to the rest of my post. I strongly urge that no one takes everything I say as an argument.
Archie Manning played in ancient times. That is a poor argument, assuming you are making an argument. Let's keep it within the bounds the past 20 years, you know, post leather helmets.
No one said it cant be done. Clearly, the Niners can win the game. It's football. And the Chiefs have lost games this year, no need to go back 15 months to revel in the last explosive Goff game.
And anyone who knows anything about football understands that it's never just the QB.
The discussion here is more nuanced that that simple thought. So I ask again, is Mahomes with a strong supporting cast good enough to win the SB against a great D when his defense is average and matched up against an average QB with a strong supporting cast.
~ max ~
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2020 02:58PM by max.