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Re: We won't know on Tom Brady will we

December 01, 2019 06:04PM
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dzrams
I didn't really follow what you're saying is not correct. All I said was that Brady hasn't been kept perfectly clean and that in general we do know how he performs under pressure. No one was narrowing that to injury depleted OLs.

As I have stressed, my focus is beyond injury broken up OLs. And for what it's worth, I don't believe Goff is playing any longer under an injury broken up OL. His new OL is performing much better than his old one.

I daresay your focus is not the only one that can shed light on the Rams situation. To me, as I have said, reducing it to "qbs under pressure" ignores the very different and much more unusual situation of dealing with subpar/broken OLs, which is its entirely own dynamic.

I didn't just say injured OL, in accounting for the Rams situation I also want to factor in the fact that they began the season with an out of sync OL that was the product of (a) both tackles regressing, and (b) playing 2 newbies on a line that included regressing OTs. Accounting for that is why I keep saying "subpar."

You said "We do know over a decade plus that he has done very well under pressure." That ignores the fact that he had one year at least with a broken OL and that is very pertinent to the Rams situation. Either way it did catch up with him--and yet Brady is one of the 2 exceptions I list when I say that the majority of the time, and I mean vast majority of the time, you field a subpar and/or broken OL, and the qb goes down with it. Because, again, that situation involves a lot more than simply "being under pressure."

We agree about the new OL. In terms of that new OL, it is just plain wonderful luck that the Rams happened to be rebuilding the OL for 2020 at the same time they had 3 OL injuries. Normally a team with multiple OL injuries does not have luck like that. Most teams simply do not have the depth to field 3 capable replacements. Not unless they drafted 5 linemen in 2 years and then traded for a 6th...something which is rarely done, but which the Rams did do, all in a bid to update the line in 2020. Then 2019 came calling and the process was sped up.

But as you would expect from a line with 3 inexperienced starters (2 rookies and 1 complete newbie 2nd year guy), so far anyway, when they have faced a tougher defense they were stymied in at least one game (Baltimore is not only 10th on defense, they lead the league in blitzing). (Chicago was missing Hicks, which made them not the same as they were in 2018, but they were still ranked 5th on D.)

Maybe it will gel going forward and stand up to SF and Dallas (9th on defense). If so that is a huge gift. But even if it doesn't, the 2020 OL will not only be rebuilt, but now some of the key components, while young, will have had valuable game experience in the system.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2019 06:07PM by zn.
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  Where are all the Goff haters

stlrams131136December 01, 2019 02:54PM

  No need to taunt others....nm

73Ram248December 01, 2019 02:55PM

  Re: No need to taunt others....nm

stlrams13290December 01, 2019 03:11PM

  How about this post?

JimYoungblood53566December 01, 2019 03:14PM

  Re: How about this post?

stlrams13307December 01, 2019 03:18PM

  What if

JimYoungblood53303December 01, 2019 03:21PM

  Re: What if

stlrams13299December 01, 2019 03:37PM

  so when everything is perfect for him, he is good?

Deadpool250December 01, 2019 03:29PM

  Re: so when everything is perfect for him, he is good?

Classicalwit213December 01, 2019 03:47PM

  when everything is perfect for him, he is good? Really Dpool?

Anonymous User249December 01, 2019 04:48PM

  Well I'll be damned...

JamesJM256December 01, 2019 04:51PM

  yeah, I agree

Deadpool412December 01, 2019 05:17PM

  Re: when everything is perfect for him, he is good? Really Dpool?

Ekern55205December 01, 2019 06:04PM

  Re: so when everything is perfect for him, he is good?

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  Re: How about this post?

Ekern55347December 01, 2019 03:59PM

  He was excellent

JimYoungblood53222December 01, 2019 04:26PM

  Re: No need to taunt others....nm

napoli212December 01, 2019 06:32PM

  LOL....welllll.....

Ram49271December 01, 2019 02:56PM

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73Ram232December 01, 2019 02:57PM

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73Ram230December 01, 2019 03:02PM

  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

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  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

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  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

Rams43263December 01, 2019 03:07PM

  Don't wake them up!!!

mexram536December 01, 2019 03:02PM

  Re: Don't wake them up!!!

Classicalwit487December 01, 2019 03:22PM

  Not sure anyone hates Goff

JimYoungblood53438December 01, 2019 03:03PM

  Re: No need to be condescending and disrespectful...

dzrams253December 01, 2019 03:17PM

  We won't know on Tom Brady will we

Rams_81216December 01, 2019 03:21PM

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dzrams300December 01, 2019 03:32PM

  Re: We won't know on Tom Brady will we

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  Re: We won't know on Tom Brady will we

zn339December 01, 2019 06:04PM

  Re: No need to be condescending and disrespectful...

Rams43259December 01, 2019 03:22PM

  The hate of Goff and McVay was puzzling

Rams_81264December 01, 2019 03:20PM

  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

Classicalwit262December 01, 2019 03:20PM

  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

dzrams231December 01, 2019 03:37PM

  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

Classicalwit194December 01, 2019 04:04PM

  They'll be back next week

IowaRam348December 01, 2019 03:22PM

  I am even less excited about Goffs future today then yesterday

Deadpool250December 01, 2019 03:26PM

  Re: I am even less excited about Goffs future today then yesterday

stlrams13310December 01, 2019 03:40PM

  I loved that he moved around today

Deadpool279December 01, 2019 03:42PM

  Re: I loved that he moved around today

stlrams13337December 01, 2019 03:46PM

  yeah, but you said you feel worse after this game

max236December 01, 2019 04:34PM

  I feel worse only because I don't think he can repeat this performance

Deadpool226December 01, 2019 05:36PM

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  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

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  Re: I guess you're talking to me?

spagsbacker193December 01, 2019 04:31PM

  I repeat my point

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  Re: Goff’s performance today wasn’t shocking

Speed_Kills276December 01, 2019 04:45PM

  Re: Right...

dzrams352December 01, 2019 04:56PM

  Re: Based on how well Murray

Speed_Kills257December 01, 2019 05:02PM

  would you not think there is a tendency that

Rams_81199December 01, 2019 05:10PM

  Re: no that’s your thing

Speed_Kills226December 01, 2019 05:18PM

  there is no agenda just facts

Rams_81237December 01, 2019 05:54PM

  Re: would you not think there is a tendency that

dzrams210December 01, 2019 05:42PM

  Re: Where are all the Goff haters

Ekern55279December 01, 2019 06:53PM

  Amazing

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