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September 12, 2019 07:49PM
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Who said he sucks(he wasn't good in Carolina, just a fact). I love JG, Think he has the ability to be very good, maybe even elite, but when he looks average , he looks average . I think I may have even said he looked rusty, he missed throws he can make in his sleep.

The fact the Oline looked good Sunday against a though front makes me think he and TG/Brown can do serious damage against teams going forward.

A win is a win though and the Rams will not throw any of them back because they lacked style points.

not saying you are, but there is a huge thread right now discussing how he is on a downward spiral with a chart showing how bad he is.....there is plenty who pretty much still aren't sold on him....even though McVay, Snead and Kronke clearly are, he has the best record in NFL since 2017 and keeps showing up in the top 10 in just about every relevant QB stat 2 years in a row.... but he's trending the wrong way so there is something wrong with him all the suddenconfused smiley



... "trended" the wrong way. Not even one exception to the downward "trend." So there's also THAT..

Brees’ QB rating declined from 115.7 in the regular season to 95.6 in playoffs last year (-20.1)

Luck: from 98.7 to 83.3. (-15.4)

Wilson: 110.9 to 105.9 (-5.0)

Foles: 96.0 to 70.6 (-25.4)

Rivers: 105.5 to 80.9 (-24.6)

Brady: 97.7 to 85.8 (-11.9)

Prescott: 96.9 to 91.3 (-5.6)

Mahomes: 113.8 to 98.9 (-14.9)

Watson: 1-3.1 to 69.7 (-33.4)

Jackson: 84.5 to 78.8 (-5.7)

Trubisky: 95.4 to 89.6 (-5.8)

You have the "trend" wrong.

These are the facts. It's not that Goff just trended down after the bye. It's that the down trend included several below average games.

In 5 of those games he has an avg. qb rating of 59.2 (where any qb rating below 80 is at least below avg. or bad depending on how low it is) and also in those games he threw 1 TD and 7 INTs.

Now you can try and find all sorts of ways to act like that's good, or didn't happen, but, Goff himself doesn;t think that's good and he is responding to it as someone with character who KNOWS it happened.

5 out of 8 games like that means he hit a stretch where he is inconsistent.

That should not be surprising since it's a common thing for good qbs to have been inconsistent in their 3rd year.

But...how many of the qbs you listed had something like 5 of 8 below avg. games at the end of the season like that? Or anything like it? Maybe a couple did.

Oh and to deflect a certain kind of response in advance, no we did not forget about the good games (which is why we say he was inconsistent) and no this does not mean that we're saying he's not a good qb, or any of that.

It means the FACTS say he was inconsistent down the stretch and while we believe he can come out of it, that does not mean it did not happen or that there's any real point in denying it did.






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... than the one I made or the one I responded to.

I said the negative slope of the regression line was NOT, in itself, a good reason to conclude that Goff was "trending down" in any way. I said that most QB's, even playoff QB's, will "trend down" because in the playoffs they play tougher teams then. (And the Rams had a game against a good team on the road in game 1.)

You said that if I was right we'd see *that* trend across playoff QB's. Now I've produced the data to show that EVERY playoff QB "trended down" (to my surprise; wouldn't have expected that to be true of every one) and NOW I "have the trend wrong"?

Alrighty then!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2019 07:52PM by Suh-weet!.
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  Rams' Jared Goff now a partner, not just a pupil of Sean McVay

RamUK618September 12, 2019 02:41AM

  Re: Rams' Jared Goff now a partner, not just a pupil of Sean McVay

bigjimram21234September 12, 2019 07:06AM

  Do you mean step up by winning the first game?

RamUK254September 12, 2019 07:29AM

  Re: Do you mean step up by winning the first game?

bigjimram21195September 12, 2019 03:52PM

  Re: Rams' Jared Goff now a partner, not just a pupil of Sean McVay

Rampage2K-212September 12, 2019 09:33AM

  Re: Rams' Jared Goff now a partner, not just a pupil of Sean McVay

oldschoolramfan175September 12, 2019 01:05PM

  Re: Rams' Jared Goff now a partner, not just a pupil of Sean McVay

bigjimram21181September 12, 2019 03:57PM

  I'm just going to throw this out there.

Saguaro362September 12, 2019 07:19AM

  Re: ok that's fair nm

Speed_Kills172September 12, 2019 08:29AM

  Re: But in reality..........It's a game.

oldschoolramfan213September 12, 2019 09:12AM

  Good thing McSnead doesn't read this board....

Rampage2K-390September 12, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: All Goff does is WIN...........

oldschoolramfan219September 12, 2019 09:20AM

  Re: All Goff does is WIN...........

Rampage2K-246September 12, 2019 09:25AM

  Re: All Goff does is WIN...........

oldschoolramfan274September 12, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: All Goff does is WIN...........

bigjimram21197September 12, 2019 04:05PM

  Re: All Goff does is WIN...........

Rampage2K-187September 12, 2019 04:20PM

  Turns out that every playoff QB in 2019...

Suh-weet!181September 12, 2019 07:10PM

  you have the trend wrong and in doing that you obscure important facts

zn317September 12, 2019 07:33PM

  Feel free to make a different argument...

Suh-weet!186September 12, 2019 07:49PM

  my argument is NOT different

zn209September 12, 2019 08:07PM

  this statement by the HC says all you need to know....

Rampage2K-185September 12, 2019 08:02PM

  McVay worked on Goff's issues he didn't act like they weren't real...

zn208September 12, 2019 08:25PM

  Re: McVay worked on Goff's issues he didn't act like they weren't real...

Rampage2K-191September 12, 2019 08:30PM

  Re: Good thing McSnead doesn't read this board....

zn219September 12, 2019 04:05PM

  Re: Good thing McSnead doesn't read this board....

Rampage2K-209September 12, 2019 04:08PM

  Re: Good thing McSnead doesn't read this board....

zn190September 12, 2019 04:39PM

  Maybe I missed it

PHDram225September 12, 2019 04:56PM

  Are you serious?

max215September 12, 2019 05:36PM

  Re: Are you serious?

PHDram203September 12, 2019 05:58PM

  Re: Are you serious?

max218September 12, 2019 06:46PM