I don't agree with that

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LBRamsFan
Using statistics or any objective measurement, JG is a top 8 QB.

However, most subjective rankings have him much lower. The reasons for this have been discussed ad nauseam, but I think it is mostly people taking a position early on re Goff, and unwilling to admit their mistake so they try to justify his success. If Goff had sat the bench his entire rookie year and simply did what he did in years 2 and 3 (like Mahomes), people would be rating him much higher in my opinion.

One thing is, I don't agree that the doubters are just being hard-headed and stubborn. I don't see people being that petty and small-minded. It's kind of a homer thing to assume that, in fact. As In I believe X about Goff and if you don't it can't be because other views are possible, it must be because you have bad motives.

PLUS saying that acts like he didn't falter in the post-season in 2017 and didn't falter in some games at the end of 2018 plus the supebowl. But he did do those things so I think it's completely reasonable that some analysts will wonder about that.

The reason I don't wonder about those down games (while also not denying they exist) is because I really do think he's young, progressing, and not really consistent yet...plus I really do think he will progress and become more consistent.

And it's fine with me if I can't convince the skeptical analysts at this point. I just assume he will progress, they will see it, and they will acknowledge it.

Plus I don't mind if our young qb is doubted. That's fine--puts a chip on his shoulder, gives him some good motivation, makes him set his standards still higher.

And stats based on mere averages are not more objective IF those numbers hide something. If you just go by the averages you erase the down games. But the down games are real. In the last 8 games, counting the post-season, he had 5 games with a qb rating below 80. In my top qbs list, they don't do that. They're more consistent (the word I keep using). It's not "subjective" to factor those games in--arguably it's more realistic to do it.

Now I also believe that the down games had a lot to do with the OL being overwhelmed, but at the same time Goff did not play well in those 5 games. They do need offensive answers to that---which includes Goff getting the ball out more quickly, and therefore also having the option to get the ball out more quickly, and the offense adjusting more quickly post-snap in general to unexpected coverages and defensive pressure (exactly the things they said they are working on this off-season).






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Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 07/16/2019 11:06AM by zn.