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Re: My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

July 09, 2019 10:22PM
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ramBRO
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stlramz
Showing damage from his multiple strokes and how the medications/alcohol in combination exacerbated the negative effects of his prior strokes and he did not appreciate that fact prior to that night.

Most sex crimes are specific intent crimes. That means they must be done with a specific mental state - e.g. for sexual gratification.

The defense experts will opine that his injuries in combination with medications and alcohol made forming that intent impossible.


Interesting.

So by this logic, considering his "injuries in combination with medications and alcohol," Mr. Rath could have easily touched the accuser's husband in the same manner? Or perhaps Scraps, the family dog?

I mean...he wouldn't have been able to form the mental state for sexual gratification, right?

It was just coincidence that he touched the naked, sleeping wife?

Well no, the way I understand this, it's the intention. That is, he is claiming that in his mental state, he was in no position to get what he was doing or to consciously control it in the normal sense of that. It was not a conscious, deliberate intent to do what he did; it was the sloppy actions of someone not in normal conscious understanding of what he was doing.

And. Not defending him (or the opposite.) Just trying to get what he is claiming.
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  Update on Rath trail

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  Alcohol & Lipitor = Sexual Assault???

SunTzu_vs_Camus240July 09, 2019 09:52AM

  A physician's view

NewMexicoRam211July 09, 2019 02:58PM

  Re: A physician's view

PHDram146July 09, 2019 06:40PM

  Of course

NewMexicoRam126July 09, 2019 06:55PM

  Re: Of course

JamesJM92July 09, 2019 06:57PM

  Did this come up in your search?

PHDram100July 09, 2019 07:33PM

  My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

stlramz88July 09, 2019 08:06PM

  Re: My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

ramBRO64July 09, 2019 08:48PM

  Re: My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

zn74July 09, 2019 10:22PM

  Re: My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

stlramz50July 10, 2019 10:20AM

  Re: My bet is defense comes with mri and ct scans

PHDram41July 10, 2019 11:09AM

  I take atorvastatin (lipitor) and drink alcohol

waterfield66July 12, 2019 07:04AM

  LOL...best one of the day yet.........nm

Arkansas Ram31July 12, 2019 07:24AM

  That's not a sudden onset sort of problem.

NewMexicoRam57July 10, 2019 08:50AM

  Re: That's not a sudden onset sort of problem.

PHDram49July 10, 2019 08:55AM

  agreed.

SunTzu_vs_Camus48July 10, 2019 03:02AM

  Re: Update on Rath trail Attachments

LMU93200July 09, 2019 10:49AM

  So is the defense admitting that this actually happened?

RockRam150July 09, 2019 11:32AM

  not really

PHDram128July 09, 2019 12:09PM

  Re: not really

zn100July 09, 2019 12:19PM

  Re: So is the defense admitting that this actually happened?

ABQRam98July 09, 2019 12:19PM

  its not just alcohol

PHDram89July 09, 2019 12:32PM

  Re: its not just alcohol

ABQRam71July 09, 2019 01:24PM

  Well again

PHDram68July 09, 2019 02:34PM

  Criminal intent

waterfield51July 12, 2019 08:52AM

  Re: Criminal intent

zn43July 12, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Criminal intent

snowman47July 12, 2019 10:51AM

  the difference between alcohol and medication

PHDram40July 12, 2019 11:32AM

  Re: the difference between alcohol and medication

zn47July 12, 2019 11:39AM

  Re: the difference between alcohol and medication

PHDram35July 12, 2019 12:26PM

  Re: the difference between alcohol and medication

zn31July 12, 2019 01:06PM

  Atorvastatin for an illness?

waterfield30July 12, 2019 02:56PM

  Re: Criminal intent-general v specific

waterfield39July 12, 2019 11:44AM

  Re: Criminal intent-general v specific

zn33July 12, 2019 11:50AM

  Re: Criminal intent and the "twinkie" case

waterfield45July 12, 2019 11:08AM

  Re: Criminal intent and the "twinkie" case

zn40July 12, 2019 11:45AM

  Re: Criminal intent and the "twinkie" case

waterfield44July 12, 2019 12:01PM

  gotcha ... very clearly stated (nm)

zn26July 12, 2019 12:15PM

  Sounds like a slingers party.....

Rampage2K-168July 09, 2019 12:17PM

  Re: Sounds like a slingers party.....

zn141July 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Re: Sounds like a slingers party.....

Rampage2K-125July 09, 2019 01:54PM

  Re: Sounds like a slingers party.....

zn119July 09, 2019 02:00PM

  Re: Update on Rath trail

tonyde117July 09, 2019 02:20PM

  Rath Accuser Testifies In Court

ramBRO285July 09, 2019 06:21PM

  Re: Rath Accuser Testifies In Court

moklerman189July 09, 2019 07:15PM

  Just my option......if true....

Arkansas Ram171July 10, 2019 05:41AM

  Re: Just my option......if true....

PHDram157July 10, 2019 06:06AM

  Rath Takes The Witness Stand

ramBRO208July 11, 2019 03:39PM

  Just saw a not guilty verdict.

cool_hand_luke197July 12, 2019 03:02PM

  Re: Just saw a not guilty verdict.

zn199July 12, 2019 03:10PM

  Re: Just saw a not guilty verdict.

Ekern55189July 12, 2019 03:15PM

  Re: Just saw a not guilty verdict.

RamBill207July 12, 2019 03:19PM

  Rams assistant found not guilty of sexual battery

RamBill175July 12, 2019 07:55PM

  Deliberated an hour.......

Rampage2K-171July 12, 2019 08:53PM

  True

stlramz184July 12, 2019 09:09PM

  Re: Update on Rath trail

NorCalRamFan142July 15, 2019 01:16AM

  OK - So is he going to be back at training camp this week? (nm)

RinconRam89July 23, 2019 07:12AM

  Re: OK - So is he going to be back at training camp this week? (nm)

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