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Well said. So here's my perspective.

May 21, 2019 08:04AM
1. What a great story it would have been if Jared Goff had gone from "bust" to Superbowl winning QB in only two years. Alas, that did not happen. Just for the record, I was posting about mid-season that I wasn't sure that either he or the young HC were quite ready YET to accomplish that. Wow, did they get close, though!

2. Goff was a 1st overall pick. It's fair for there to be very high expectations for him. I guess reasonable people will disagree about the time frame and expectation level, though. As I asked in a post early last season, when talking about Goff, it's helpful to ask "compared to what?". Perfection? That will make him appear wanting. Hall of Fame QB's? Same deal. How many QB's picked high in the last 10, 15 years have been disappointing to their teams? Quite a few. How about comparing him to other QB's his age? Or from his draft class or near it? Where do we normally expect QB's to rank in the league by year 3 or 4?

3. My number one expectation for Jared Goff is that he keep learning and improving. So far, so good, on that front. From what he says and does, my perception is that he takes responsibility for his mistakes, and it's not just lip service. He truly wants to get better, and keeps working at it. The question may simply be when does he hit a ceiling that no amount of work or desire can overcome? I don't know. Haven't seen it yet, though.

4. I think that some observers and fans judge Goff more on what he isn't than what he is. They want him to have both his own strengths AND those of other QB's. But it's very unusual to have the whole package. Only a few great ones in NFL history have it. He may never be the improvisor in the pocket that Rodgers, or young QB's like Mahomes and Wentz are. But he can be deadly accurate at times, and make some really great throws. He can give you a lead that never even requires late game heroics. OR, he can go back and forth with Mahomes and just keep scoring and scoring until he comes out on top with the final TD being a fantastic throw down the sideline. Yes, but Saguaro, he doesn't do it consistently!! Hmm...24 year old QB shows flashes and has some great games but isn't consistent - that surprises you? You thought consistency would come first with a young QB?

5. There is an idea out there that Goff is an ordinary QB being coached by an extraordinary HC. That maybe McVay could take many other QB's and get the same results, because McVay! I'm a huge McVay fan, but I don't think that gives Goff enough credit. Somebody has to make the reads and the throws. I also have seen several people post or write as though Goff's whole postseason was poor. He played poorly in the Superbowl. No argument. But he did ok against Dallas. And I think what he did in NO was terrific, even if the stats don't reflect it. Bucked some strong headwinds there, and made some clutch plays. Peyton Manning agrees with me. smiling smiley

6. Goff is going to get paid. I guess people can opine that they wouldn't do it, or that they wouldn't pay more than $X, or whatever, but all of that is purely hypothetical, because Jared Goff is going to get paid! I could say "if the Rams won't pay him, someone else will", but even that is ridiculous. The Rams didn't spend all this time looking for a QB, only to let Goff slip away because he's not perfect. He's going to get paid, and the Rams are going to pay him. Not only that, but I bet it's an easy negotiation, with no drama.

7. All that being said, I'm glad they got Bortles. I hope he has a great preseason. I feel much better about him than I ever did Mannion. Unless Goff gets injured, we probably won't see much of him in the regular season. But he IS a former 1st round pick. There's some quality for McVay to work with there. If Goff went down, and Bortles had to lead the team, it would be intriguing to see what he could do.



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  Rams, Jared Goff rank 22nd on ESPN's QB commitment list

RamBill862May 20, 2019 11:27AM

  Re: Rams, Jared Goff rank 22nd on ESPN's QB commitment list

Rams43417May 20, 2019 12:29PM

  Peters can be very good.....

roman18266May 20, 2019 01:06PM

  this is just about current contractual obligation

LMU93158May 21, 2019 04:37AM

  I can see making Goff a top say...

jemach299May 20, 2019 01:57PM

  Re: I can see making Goff a top say...

AlbaNY_Ram188May 20, 2019 02:02PM

  Well...

jemach181May 20, 2019 02:24PM

  A Super Bowl appearance in 3rd year as starter not enough?

promomasterj187May 20, 2019 02:44PM

  Re: A Super Bowl appearance in 3rd year as starter not enough?

Classicalwit270May 20, 2019 04:10PM

  And leave it to the Cowboys...

jemach295May 21, 2019 03:18AM

  Re: And leave it to the Cowboys...

no name157May 21, 2019 09:09AM

  4600 yards is...

jemach290May 21, 2019 12:29PM

  So when we release him - who do we sign?

promomasterj141May 22, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: If I'm the Cowboys...

dzrams151May 21, 2019 08:12PM

  Re: I can see making Goff a top say...

no name149May 21, 2019 08:32AM

  I don't think the extension is automatic...

NewMexicoRam224May 20, 2019 02:38PM

  VinnyB said Goff looked very very impressive today throwing the ball

max279May 20, 2019 02:56PM

  It is what it is...

jemach229May 21, 2019 03:32AM

  completely disagree

zn206May 21, 2019 05:05AM

  Well said. So here's my perspective.

Saguaro192May 21, 2019 08:04AM

  Re: Well said. So here's my perspective.

zn174May 21, 2019 08:28AM

  And I agree with all of that! nm.

Saguaro149May 21, 2019 08:29AM

  Good points there. Nm

NewMexicoRam138May 21, 2019 09:38AM

  Re: that's fair

Speed_Kills149May 21, 2019 11:49AM

  Re: It is what it is...

Rams43192May 21, 2019 06:43AM

  Re: It is what it is...

Rampage2K-167May 21, 2019 07:30AM

  Exactly

LBRamsFan172May 21, 2019 08:21AM

  Re: It is what it is...

AlbaNY_Ram330May 21, 2019 07:08AM

  Re: but...

Speed_Kills192May 21, 2019 07:23AM

  Re: but...

Rampage2K-180May 21, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: but...

GroundPounder162May 21, 2019 08:48AM

  Re: but...

Rampage2K-243May 21, 2019 09:55AM

  Re: but...

GroundPounder161May 21, 2019 09:59AM

  I don't have to defend Goff to people who watched the NFC Champ

max316May 21, 2019 08:10AM

  Re: I don't have to defend Goff to people who watched the NFC Champ

GroundPounder173May 21, 2019 08:43AM

  Getting the W AND that stat line in an INSANE environment...

Saguaro201May 21, 2019 08:47AM

  Re: Getting the W AND that stat line in an INSANE environment...

Rampage2K-260May 21, 2019 09:58AM

  no doubt

stlramz145May 21, 2019 10:48PM

  You need to go back and watch the 2nd half

max159May 21, 2019 10:14AM

  Re: I watched the NFC Championship game

Speed_Kills200May 21, 2019 11:41AM

  Every qb has those duds

PHDram159May 21, 2019 11:47AM

  Re: I watched the NFC Championship game

max350May 21, 2019 04:09PM

  Re: I watched the NFC Championship game

Speed_Kills185May 22, 2019 05:53AM

  Re: I don't think the extension is automatic...

Killrazor193May 21, 2019 12:42AM

  Look closer, guys.

NewMexicoRam225May 21, 2019 02:55AM

  Re: Absolutely idiotic

merlin218May 20, 2019 09:35PM

  It's adorable the way you all think NFL contracts are based solely on stats and merit

promomasterj129May 22, 2019 12:48PM