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March 19, 2019 03:22PM
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So all we need is the greatest QB of all time and we can pay him top dollar.

A very doable plan, indeed.

Anyways, Brady will be done pretty soon. Then we

You misunderstood. I was pointing out that the question, how many teams paying the top qb cap percentage to qbs have won superbowls, doesn't tell us anything because one team has been hogging all the superbowls. So as long as Brady Bellichick are a good working combo the question "who has won superbowls" doesn't tell you anything.

If you asked "how many teams who DON'T pay their qb top qb cap percentage have won the superbowl" you would get the exact same answer.

So it's just not a good question IMO.

A better question would be, how many teams that pay their qb the top qb cap percentage have been in championship games---we might get a better answer.

In 2018, it was 2 young qbs who have yet to get a 2nd contract, and 2 veteran qbs who have contracts in the normal range for top qb cap hits (Brees and Brady).

So if someone told me that a team paying their qb in the top contract range in terms of cap percentage had a LESSER chance of doing well, I would say that the evidence of the conference championship games tells you otherwise. QBs with those top percentage contracts regularly appear in those games. Go back years and there is always someone who meets that description in those games. In 2016 for example it was 4 of them--Brady, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Ryan.

I think the evidence keeps showing that YES you can win if your qb is getting a top cap percentage contract. So yes I think it's a myth to say you CAN'T win with that.

Is it harder to win that way? Well---not necessarily at all, no.

The counter idea is, a team has an advantage if they have a young qb who has still not cashed in yet. But I think that's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. If you have a young qb he can carry less of the load, so you NEED 10 top contract guys taking up 60% of the cap for your team to be in it. (10 top contracts taking up 60% of the cap is a norm.) On the other hand, once the qb is better established he can carry more (assuming he's good which is a different question), and in that case you DON'T need 10 other top contract guys, you can do it with 8 others instead. Because that's all having a top qb contract on the books is going to do. It takes you from having 10 top contract guys taking up 60% of the cap, not including the qb, to having 8 or 9 other top contract guys, including the qb. That's the only real difference. So it gets down to this---are you better off with a young rookie contract qb and 10 top contract guys, or with a veteran qb (who can carry more of the load) and 8 or 9 other top contract guys? I suppose it depends and goes case by case, but I would never say that yes one is ALWAYS absolutely better as a situation than the other.

A team that is well managed can pay their qb and if he's a good one, be in it and win. We see that every year.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2019 03:27PM by zn.
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  Bortles a Ram...

jemach1620March 18, 2019 02:54PM

  Just saw they are finalizing a deal

Ram Fan Teacher384March 18, 2019 02:55PM

  I got notification it's done.

jemach341March 18, 2019 02:57PM

  Could we get a comp pick though?

Ram Fan Teacher323March 18, 2019 03:00PM

  Sure

PHDram285March 18, 2019 03:26PM

  Re: Bortles a Ram...

Classicalwit392March 18, 2019 03:02PM

  Rams, QB Blake Bortles agree to terms on one-year contract

RamBill526March 18, 2019 03:02PM

  Darlington: "Bortles Loved Being Around McVay"

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  Bortles and Goff Have Same Agent

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  Bortles reaches deal with Rams to back up Goff

RamBill274March 18, 2019 03:15PM

  Ravens and Broncos Were Also Interested in Bortles

RamBill266March 18, 2019 03:32PM

  Re: Darlington: "Bortles Loved Being Around McVay"

george_allen272March 18, 2019 03:20PM

  Re: Darlington: "Bortles Loved Being Around McVay" says it all

Rampage2K-221March 18, 2019 07:03PM

  I think this is a smart move by Bortles...

jemach214March 19, 2019 04:39AM

  Re: Rams, QB Blake Bortles agree to terms on one-year contract

Rams Junkie357March 18, 2019 03:32PM

  Yep. A solid experienced back up

NewMexicoRam246March 18, 2019 03:42PM

  Re: Bortles a Ram...

IowaRam332March 18, 2019 03:10PM

  Re: would have liked to see him sign longer

Speed_Kills282March 18, 2019 03:14PM

  Wow, I was way off on this one

promomasterj333March 18, 2019 03:27PM

  Re: Wow, I was way off on this one

bigjimram21431March 18, 2019 07:17PM

  One less position to worry about.

Deadhead Ram283March 18, 2019 04:03PM

  Couple of thoughts here...

Rams43341March 18, 2019 04:47PM

  Re: Couple of thoughts here...

David Deacon387March 19, 2019 02:09AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts here...

OzRam203March 19, 2019 03:58AM

  Always be drafting CBs...

jemach184March 19, 2019 04:42AM

  Re: Always be drafting CBs...

stlramz179March 19, 2019 08:32AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts here...

Rams43231March 19, 2019 06:14AM

  Personally I'd be very happy

OzRam183March 19, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: Couple of thoughts here...

LMU93159March 19, 2019 10:22AM

  A nice explanation post by FrantikRam...

Rams43354March 18, 2019 05:01PM

  Re: Being behind a better Offensive line

Rams Junkie229March 18, 2019 05:18PM

  Here’s a nice tweet about what a stand up guy Bortles is...

Rams43337March 18, 2019 05:10PM

  Re: Here’s a nice tweet about what a stand up guy Bortles is...

PSJRam485March 18, 2019 05:28PM

  Not gonna get any hammering from me

NewMexicoRam252March 18, 2019 06:52PM

  it's not really an issue

zn290March 18, 2019 06:55PM

  Re: it's not really an issue

bigjimram21242March 18, 2019 07:24PM

  the issue is winning SB with high paid QB

max233March 19, 2019 04:06AM

  no still a myth

zn365March 19, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: no still a myth

max184March 19, 2019 09:42AM

  you misunderstood

zn130March 19, 2019 03:22PM

  Not true

max126March 20, 2019 08:03AM

  I don't like the odds

AlbaNY_Ram126March 20, 2019 09:37AM

  Re: I don't like the odds

max122March 21, 2019 04:50AM

  Re: I don't like the odds

zn128March 21, 2019 05:12AM

  2014 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Blake Bortles WalterFootball.com

Rams Junkie265March 18, 2019 06:31PM

  Re: Rams win super bowl with Bortles...ok, joking and true (NM)

Steve111March 21, 2019 05:02AM

  Nice!!! Preseason just got more interesting.....

Rampage2K-289March 18, 2019 06:59PM

  Re: Nice!!! Preseason just got more interesting.....

oldschoolramfan199March 19, 2019 06:53AM

  Re: I like this move

RamsFanSinceLA143March 20, 2019 07:47AM