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Re: top 5?

February 09, 2019 09:34AM
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Speed_Kills
C’mon 2k

Right now off the top of my head I’m taking the following over Goff

Mahomes
Rivers
Brady
Luck
Foles
Wentz (based on talent)
Rodgers
Stafford
Wilson
Ryan
Probably Cam Newton
Brees
Watson?

If I needed to win a game against a really good defense I think I would slot Goff behind Watson who is also young and Cam

I have him just outside the top 10 about where he was last year and the reason for that is his performance against the very best defenses he faced.

I'd take Goff over the following 6 on your list:

Foles - If you ding Goff for his performance against the best defenses, Foles has to be dinged for being wildly inconsistent.
Wentz - What does based on talent mean? He's been injured and he hasn't progressed.
Stafford - Goff's QB rating and TD/INT ratio is far superior.
Ryan - he's up and down kinda like Goff and often hasn't been a big time performer in big games either. I think he and Goff are probably most similar as far as level they're on.
Cam - his stats are far inferior and the knocks against Goff can be said about him. This is the one that makes me believe that you're too pessimistic on Goff.
Watson - Similar stats but he hasn't really progressed since his rookie year. He's also inconsistent and struggles against really good defenses.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff

Speed_Kills493February 08, 2019 05:53PM

  completely disagree

zn209February 08, 2019 06:14PM

  Re:Goff is the SAME...the circumstances changed--Peyton Manning Comp

Steve117February 08, 2019 11:07PM

  Re: Good points both of you

Speed_Kills107February 09, 2019 04:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

zn87February 09, 2019 06:17AM

  Facts are not relevant

waterfield67February 09, 2019 09:17AM

  Re: sort of like Gurley being too hurt to contribute

Speed_Kills69February 09, 2019 10:46AM

  I think that's true, he was too hurt to play 100%

zn44February 09, 2019 11:48AM

  we're approaching this differently W

zn54February 09, 2019 11:49AM

  Re: Good points both of you

RamsFanSinceLA40February 12, 2019 07:32AM

  not many QBs can do well when they are one dimensional

ferragamo7987February 08, 2019 06:25PM

  Re: Vikings Jared Goff v Bears/Pats Jared Goff Attachments

Ram49122February 08, 2019 06:31PM

  Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

RamBill151February 08, 2019 07:07PM

  Fantastic breakdown, thanks

Ram4994February 08, 2019 07:27PM

  Re: Michael Irvin on Inside the NFL

zn139February 08, 2019 08:50PM

  Yep cant do that if Kupp is there

Hazlet Hacksaw82February 09, 2019 05:09AM

  If cooks makes those catches

PHDram91February 09, 2019 04:25AM

  Exactly

Ram4963February 09, 2019 08:07AM

  Re: Cooks

Speed_Kills101February 09, 2019 04:55AM

  I don’t think he’s top 10.......

Rampage2K-147February 08, 2019 07:53PM

  Re: top 5?

Speed_Kills95February 09, 2019 05:10AM

  Re: top 5?

Rams4367February 09, 2019 06:04AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Speed_Kills52February 09, 2019 08:18AM

  Re: it’s ok 43 we can disagree on where he slots

Rams4349February 09, 2019 08:23AM

  Re: Yup

Speed_Kills47February 09, 2019 08:34AM

  no way do I put Cam Newton

ferragamo7950February 09, 2019 07:10AM

  Re: ok but I bet you more people

Speed_Kills42February 09, 2019 08:32AM

  we will have a better idea

ferragamo7940February 09, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: yeah its killing me

Speed_Kills39February 09, 2019 05:00PM

  Re: we will have a better idea

AlbaNY_Ram37February 10, 2019 04:58AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-89February 09, 2019 08:44AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rams4346February 09, 2019 09:03AM

  Re: top 5? Why not? NFL.com has him 5th ranked also....

Rampage2K-50February 09, 2019 09:18AM

  This might make you feel better.......Tom Brady's 7 worst games

Rampage2K-68February 09, 2019 09:21AM

  Re: top 5?

dzrams43February 09, 2019 09:34AM

  I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

LMU9345February 09, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: I rate him top 8- top 10 at worst

Speed_Kills44February 09, 2019 05:02PM

  I'll be a little bit vague here...

LMU9394February 10, 2019 04:10AM

  Re: I'll be a little bit vague here...

zn40February 10, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: Good list.

Speed_Kills47February 10, 2019 06:50AM

  Re: Good list.

Rampage2K-56February 10, 2019 07:56AM

  Re: Good list.

dzrams38February 10, 2019 08:57AM

  Ryan did have an advantage early

zn38February 10, 2019 09:22AM

  Re: Idk

Speed_Kills45February 10, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: Idk

zn58February 10, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

Speed_Kills50February 10, 2019 10:57AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams36February 10, 2019 11:15AM

  Re: Thx dz. now we are talking

Speed_Kills44February 10, 2019 11:58AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn33February 10, 2019 11:39AM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

dzrams34February 10, 2019 12:29PM

  Re: im not talking about having a bad game

zn34February 10, 2019 01:15PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder56February 10, 2019 04:06PM

  Re: Idk

zn49February 10, 2019 04:24PM

  Re: Idk

GroundPounder41February 10, 2019 05:07PM

  Re: Idk

zn41February 10, 2019 05:14PM

  Re: Idk

Rams4339February 11, 2019 07:30AM

  Goff has a winning record against your list of QBs

JoeMad58February 12, 2019 07:56AM

  top 10 QB with McVay Gurley Kupp

Rams_8173February 09, 2019 12:33PM

  Goff v Vikings highlights

Speed_Kills50February 10, 2019 07:27AM

  Step back for a while

max82February 10, 2019 11:59AM

  Re: Step back for a while

Rampage2K-65February 10, 2019 03:04PM

  Re: good stuff max

Speed_Kills46February 11, 2019 06:11AM

  Re: good stuff max

Rams4338February 11, 2019 07:36AM

  Speed....

zn54February 12, 2019 02:36PM

  I dunno Speed

max36February 12, 2019 01:06PM