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Re: So does this mean that Cowherd was right?

December 03, 2018 07:57PM
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Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired. Sure sounds like that is the case. The climate in the NFL seems to have changed where teams have less patience for long rebuilds.

GB was not in a rebuild. And it's entirely possible it won't be next year either. They have Rodgers, they have a top OL (including one of the 2-3 best young LOTs in the league), and a lot of young talent on defense. Hard to guess about these things but to an amateur eye there may be enough there to get it going.

I am completely skeptical of the idea that with the right coach and ONLY that you can have an overnight turnaround. I will repeat what the evidence actually shows. Any overnight turnarounds people can name include a very strong presence of inherited talent.

I know people tried to finesse all this with semantic stuff about the word "talent." It means top talent of they type and quantity that has a certain critical mass to it. Usually that includes a qb but it doesn't have to--there are examples of it happening without the qb already being there. So I was not particularly persuaded by that semantics argument.

The way to calculate this is simple. Ask what percentage of starters were replaced. If you're keeping most of your defense and your whole offensive line and key star players, for example, then, chances are real good that explains why you won in year 1. If you don't win in year 1, you can still be a good coach--in fact most of the great coaches in history went through rebuilds---but you need to up the level of the talent. What would be preposterous (and Cowherd is just shallow enough to be this preposterous) would be to suggest that 2-3 turnarounds means your coach isn't great. Obviously any "theory" that dismisses Walsh, Noll, Landry, Belichick (among others) and closer to home examples like Vermeil, is not worth the breath it takes to expound it. That's my honest view.

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Not really the point, zn.

Point is teams see what McVay has done and want the same results with an energetic young coach who is imaginative with the offense.

You can point out all those old guys who were quick with the turnarounds and all that other stuff you want...not really the point here.

McVay took the WORST offense in the league and turned them into the BEST offense in the league in his first year.

The Rams have been around 80+'years and have never had back to back 11 win seasons...McVay did it in his first two years as a 32 year old HC.

Good luck to all those teams trying to capture that.Goodluck Smiley



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zn297December 04, 2018 04:10AM

  correct...

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  Somebody brought this up recently..

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  McVay is going NOWHERE. Not to worry.

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  Kind of what I thought, Saguaro..

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  Thanks dz..

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