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Re: Exactly!

November 17, 2018 10:21AM
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stlramz
It seems every team has a few pieces where, if there was a turnaround, you could argue talent was in place.

Do you presently see a team devoid of talent?

I'd daresay that most teams that fire their coach feel they have talent that has underachieved. And looking around the league, I'd say that most teams do have some talent. Every team doesn't have the same amount of talent but typically there is talent in place.

Take Cleveland. They've got plenty of talent. I think a McVay could get them into the playoffs next year or the year after at the latest.

I will say, in the case of the Rams, I knew they had a lot of talent on the team that was severely under performing.

Then...why the 1, 2, 3 year rebuilds?

How is Shanahan doing with that? (I think KS is a top coach and that when he has a team on the field it will show.)

And as for the Rams, I don't think they had talent that was all underperforming. I think they had a lot of issues. One was being young.

But yes it was predictable that if you add a good coach to that group, and avoid all the injuries that had plagued them (going back to 2007), that they would do well. Not sure if anyone predicted playoffs in year 1 but still, they had a great core in place. That's why Demoff openly said during the coach search that this was not a rebuild .

That was NOT true however in 2012, or 1997.

Honestly there are always big difference between teams and it is not that hard to tell them apart, though it's certainly clearer in retrospect. Looking at the 97 team did you think "well with the right coach they could be winning this year." No one thought that, and for good reasons.

And yes Cleveland is a good example. Add a good head coach to the Browns, and they look like they could do well. I don't think that anyone thought that about the Giants in the off-season, though.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2018 11:11AM by zn.
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  Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

RamUK1032November 16, 2018 10:42AM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

Rampage2K-339November 16, 2018 10:45AM

  Agreed. Did u hear McVay when he was asked

stlramz302November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

stlurams204November 16, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

zn337November 16, 2018 10:47AM

  Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-341November 16, 2018 10:53AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

MamaRAMa240November 16, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-265November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  depends on what he means

zn199November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: depends on what he means

Rampage2K-180November 16, 2018 11:24AM

  wasn't talking about that

zn161November 16, 2018 11:33AM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

Rampage2K-156November 16, 2018 11:47AM

  those have happened

zn278November 16, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: those have happened

Rampage2K-158November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: those have happened

zn156November 16, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

stlramz144November 16, 2018 01:52PM

  Utterly underestimates what McVay has done

RamUK251November 16, 2018 11:32AM

  not even a tiny bit

zn214November 16, 2018 11:35AM

  Mike Smith inherited a dumpster fire in Atlanta

RamUK192November 16, 2018 02:50PM

  don't agree with the example

zn186November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  it wasn’t a rebuild, it WAS an organizational fail (Fisher)

max163November 16, 2018 01:51PM

  confusion

zn174November 16, 2018 02:03PM

  Looks like you're cherry picking

max253November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn340November 16, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

max744November 16, 2018 06:10PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn785November 16, 2018 07:02PM

  Curious: what team has no talent?

stlramz176November 17, 2018 03:53AM

  if that were the case

zn150November 17, 2018 04:36AM

  Objection! Non responsive. Move to strike.

stlramz154November 17, 2018 03:06PM

  Not really the right question

zn151November 17, 2018 03:41PM

  its my question.

stlramz146November 17, 2018 07:39PM

  I think you switched the thing up

zn150November 17, 2018 08:15PM

  Let me know when your done editing

stlramz149November 17, 2018 08:22PM

  Re: Let me know when your done editing

zn185November 17, 2018 08:28PM

  Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz143November 17, 2018 08:40PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

zn285November 17, 2018 08:45PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz145November 17, 2018 08:48PM

  Fair enough (nm)

zn194November 17, 2018 08:50PM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams172November 17, 2018 09:27AM

  Re: Exactly!

zn142November 17, 2018 10:21AM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams168November 17, 2018 04:14PM

  Re: Exactly!

zn174November 17, 2018 05:08PM

  Less about personnel vs getting players to play better

Rams_81172November 19, 2018 02:48AM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams226November 16, 2018 02:57PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn183November 16, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams133November 16, 2018 04:48PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn139November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  Ted Marchiroda did

SUretHing182November 16, 2018 04:17PM

  don't agree, not if you look closer

zn167November 16, 2018 04:51PM

  It is about how coaching can get players to play better

Rams_81149November 19, 2018 02:45AM

  Martz proves that it is never just the coach

zn269November 19, 2018 02:59AM

  Every team looked for the next Brady and Bellicheck.

RockRam269November 16, 2018 12:01PM

  Here is the video of Cowherd on McVay

Rampage2K-222November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  LOL...I find the thought another team is go to snatch him from us funny....

jemach197November 17, 2018 06:21AM

  I'll catch H*** for this but.......

Ramgator284November 16, 2018 12:49PM

  Then I jumped the gun....

JamesJM233November 16, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: I'll catch H*** for this but.......

bigjimram21147November 17, 2018 09:59AM

  Lol there's almost zero chance Mcvay leaves

Ram_Ruler177November 16, 2018 01:15PM

  Vision

Old Goat165November 16, 2018 05:00PM

  Great coaches spawn great results

SUretHing219November 16, 2018 05:28PM

  for me it is cause and effect Martz and McVay

Rams_81203November 18, 2018 12:28PM