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I don't think Cowherd is saying that a one year turnaround is to be expected. I think he is saying that a fairly quick turn around is expected rather than the 3-5 year slow molasses process that's been accepted in the past.
I think hiring the next McVay means that a team that feels they have talent that has underachieved will look for a creative and innovative coaching mind who is also a strong communicator and leader.
No I don't think he meant the 2nd part. The red-bolded stuff.
I think he really believes that McV demonstrates (to him) that you don't have to put up with 2-3 rebuilds. You know, like with Noll or Walsh.
I don;t think he knows that there are no overnight turnarounds without a lot of inherited top talent.
In fact I don't think he says a word about that.
Well, we're gonna have to disagree on this one my friend.
I think you're the one who made it all about "inherited top talent." I don't think Cowherd was talking about that at all.
Yeah I know he didn't talk about that at all. That's the mistake I am pinning on him.
He actually believes if you hire the right coach, you can have overnight turnarounds.
Not mentioning inherited talent in that equation just falsifies everything. As I keep saying, it is very hard for people to name actual overnight turnarounds where there was basically no talent present before. Real rebuilds are entirely different things than that.
Noll had to rebuild, Walsh did, Landry did, Bellichick did, Vermeil did. Another example I brought up was Carroll in Seattle.
I have never seen an overnight turnaround without there being a lot of talent in place already. Usually that includes the qb but it doesn't even always include that.
So by neglecting that Cowherd basically showed he did not grasp the situation and therefore leapt to a false conclusion.
Based on everything I have ever seen overnight turnarounds are the result of having BOTH the coach AND top talent on hand. That equation is very different from a rebuild. (Plus of course as we know, there's a long list of great coaches who did have to rebuild because they didn't have the talent and therefore took time to turn it around. Cowherd acts as if McVay's situation erases all that. So it's a kind of double mistake. He ends up unwittingly dismissing all these great coaches who did NOT turn it around overnight because they needed to get the talent in place.)
And even if someone manages to dig up an exception, that doesn't cover the Rams in 2017. In 2017, the Rams had a very substantial stock of talent, in fact some ridiculous talent. So no McVay does not prove that you need only the coach and boom, turnaround. Which IS what I heard Cowherd say.
Some people are taking this as me saying that McV doesn't deserve credit, which is just a bad misread. It's coach plus talent, meaning this was not a rebuild; of course the coach deserves credit in both situations, one-year turnaround OR rebuild. Without the coach neither one works ..
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2018 05:53PM by zn.