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don't agree with the example

November 16, 2018 04:27PM
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RamUK
After Petrino left he had no QB (other than the mighty Joey Harrington) or RB and took a team in freefall and 4-12 the previous year to 11-5 and the playoffs after taking Ryan and picking up Michael Turner.

He didn't inherit the talent, he went out and got it.

So there's your example of it being done.

Hope that's not too confusing winking smiley

That's an example that comes close and therefore might qualify as an exception because they added Ryan as a rookie plus Turner as a FA RB.

But I don't see it.

When Smith arrived they had their entire OL (they added Baker who didn't even start for the first 8 games) plus Roddy White on offense. The performance of that veteran OL was one of the reasons they did so well in 2008. And on defense they already had half their secondary (including Milloy), 2/3rds of their LBs (Brooking & Boley), and their entire DL (including John Abraham who had his best year in 2008 with 16.5 sacks).

So as I see it they added Ryan and Turner to a veteran offense plus pretty much went with their veteran defense.

In contrast, in 99, when Vermeil started winning, he had 6 players total on the entire roster who were there before he arrived. I mentioned the 2008 Atlanta OL...Vermeil didn't have his OL until 99. They added Timmerman, Nutten, and Pace before things settled in on the OL.

In Seattle, in 2012 when they started winning, they had 3 starters who were there before Carroll arrived, and one was the punter.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2018 04:29PM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

RamUK1034November 16, 2018 10:42AM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

Rampage2K-340November 16, 2018 10:45AM

  Agreed. Did u hear McVay when he was asked

stlramz302November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

stlurams204November 16, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Is anybody else getting uneasy about other fans

zn338November 16, 2018 10:47AM

  Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-342November 16, 2018 10:53AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

MamaRAMa240November 16, 2018 11:03AM

  Re: Cowherd said McVay is going to get a lot of coaches fired

Rampage2K-266November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  depends on what he means

zn200November 16, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: depends on what he means

Rampage2K-182November 16, 2018 11:24AM

  wasn't talking about that

zn162November 16, 2018 11:33AM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

Rampage2K-157November 16, 2018 11:47AM

  those have happened

zn279November 16, 2018 12:36PM

  Re: those have happened

Rampage2K-159November 16, 2018 12:47PM

  Re: those have happened

zn156November 16, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: wasn't talking about that

stlramz146November 16, 2018 01:52PM

  Utterly underestimates what McVay has done

RamUK252November 16, 2018 11:32AM

  not even a tiny bit

zn215November 16, 2018 11:35AM

  Mike Smith inherited a dumpster fire in Atlanta

RamUK193November 16, 2018 02:50PM

  don't agree with the example

zn187November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  it wasn’t a rebuild, it WAS an organizational fail (Fisher)

max164November 16, 2018 01:51PM

  confusion

zn174November 16, 2018 02:03PM

  Looks like you're cherry picking

max254November 16, 2018 04:27PM

  nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn340November 16, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

max745November 16, 2018 06:10PM

  Re: nope, I looked at the results...one comment held up another didn't

zn786November 16, 2018 07:02PM

  Curious: what team has no talent?

stlramz177November 17, 2018 03:53AM

  if that were the case

zn151November 17, 2018 04:36AM

  Objection! Non responsive. Move to strike.

stlramz155November 17, 2018 03:06PM

  Not really the right question

zn152November 17, 2018 03:41PM

  its my question.

stlramz146November 17, 2018 07:39PM

  I think you switched the thing up

zn150November 17, 2018 08:15PM

  Let me know when your done editing

stlramz150November 17, 2018 08:22PM

  Re: Let me know when your done editing

zn186November 17, 2018 08:28PM

  Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz144November 17, 2018 08:40PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

zn287November 17, 2018 08:45PM

  Re: Seriously? Your title wasn’t personal?

stlramz147November 17, 2018 08:48PM

  Fair enough (nm)

zn195November 17, 2018 08:50PM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams173November 17, 2018 09:27AM

  Re: Exactly!

zn143November 17, 2018 10:21AM

  Re: Exactly!

dzrams169November 17, 2018 04:14PM

  Re: Exactly!

zn174November 17, 2018 05:08PM

  Less about personnel vs getting players to play better

Rams_81173November 19, 2018 02:48AM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams227November 16, 2018 02:57PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn184November 16, 2018 04:09PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

dzrams135November 16, 2018 04:48PM

  Re: Here is what "hiring the next McVay" means....

zn140November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  Ted Marchiroda did

SUretHing183November 16, 2018 04:17PM

  don't agree, not if you look closer

zn168November 16, 2018 04:51PM

  It is about how coaching can get players to play better

Rams_81150November 19, 2018 02:45AM

  Martz proves that it is never just the coach

zn270November 19, 2018 02:59AM

  Every team looked for the next Brady and Bellicheck.

RockRam270November 16, 2018 12:01PM

  Here is the video of Cowherd on McVay

Rampage2K-224November 16, 2018 05:19PM

  LOL...I find the thought another team is go to snatch him from us funny....

jemach198November 17, 2018 06:21AM

  I'll catch H*** for this but.......

Ramgator285November 16, 2018 12:49PM

  Then I jumped the gun....

JamesJM234November 16, 2018 12:55PM

  Re: I'll catch H*** for this but.......

bigjimram21148November 17, 2018 09:59AM

  Lol there's almost zero chance Mcvay leaves

Ram_Ruler178November 16, 2018 01:15PM

  Vision

Old Goat166November 16, 2018 05:00PM

  Great coaches spawn great results

SUretHing220November 16, 2018 05:28PM

  for me it is cause and effect Martz and McVay

Rams_81204November 18, 2018 12:28PM