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Re: that was me

October 12, 2018 10:11PM
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Atlantic Ram
and I'll stand by it... Just a different game IMO.

You can still win with a solid defense and a great running game with a solid QB but its not like it was then.

A franchise QB like Brees, ughh Brady, Rodgers when healthy can win more games with less help than a once in a lifetime RB. Obviously your opinion differs greatly. No worries on this end.

Well there is a distinction to be made for an elite of the elite QB like the three you name and a franchise QB.

Franchise QBs are drafted every year. Matt Ryan. Stafford. Rivers. Newton. Luck. All are franchise QBs.

Given how frequently this caliber of QB is coming out in the draft, I'd take the once in a lifetime RB. But if we're talking Brees/Brady/Rodgers, clearly you go that route.

Well OK. And IMO we're not really arguing much of a difference. I would put one option at 1A and the other at 1B so its not like I'm pounding the table, lol... but still would choose 1A simply because it is a passing league now. I would take any of the QB's you mentioned because its so hard to win without a QB. You can get good RB production, even in the passing game, with a good RB. They are plentiful too. Its much tougher to win with an average QB. But we've seen it with Keenum and a strong running game and strong defense. Its still a valid strategy (See Fisher).

One other thing I would add is that a QB can play significantly longer and can, but certainly not always, actually be a staple for the team the longer they play. Goff could see another 3 or 4 starting RB's if he has a lengthy career. And the league seems to want to keep the QB's healthy so perhaps he has a better shot at that.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  IMO...the Giants did the right thing in taking Barkley...

jemach709October 12, 2018 02:48AM

  Never a doubt in my mind..

PaulButcher59391October 12, 2018 03:01AM

  They will get their QB this year

den-the-coach244October 12, 2018 03:42AM

  Better get an oline first

Hazlet Hacksaw206October 12, 2018 04:58AM

  Re: They will get their QB this year

BigGame81243October 12, 2018 05:18AM

  They will be picking top ten again

SUretHing152October 12, 2018 05:35AM

  Re agree

Speed_Kills124October 12, 2018 06:57AM

  Re: I believe time will demonstrate they should have taken Darnold

merlin162October 12, 2018 07:00AM

  Old debate: Risk for a franchise QB

Atlantic Ram130October 12, 2018 07:14AM

  Re: Other things to factor in....

dzrams163October 12, 2018 07:36AM

  I think that's huge...

jemach110October 12, 2018 07:45AM

  that was me

Atlantic Ram113October 12, 2018 10:07AM

  Re: that was me

dzrams136October 12, 2018 10:12AM

  Re: that was me

Atlantic Ram108October 12, 2018 10:11PM

  I'll disagree with you on a point...

jemach100October 13, 2018 07:15PM

  Re: Well let's talk rareness of the player, good point

merlin111October 12, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: Well let's talk rareness of the player, good point

dzrams146October 12, 2018 11:10AM

  Next time I'll just let you answer...

jemach103October 12, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: Well let's talk rareness of the player, good point

jemach128October 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: the risk for the Giants is that they string together 5+ or so wins

merlin160October 12, 2018 09:47PM

  Re: the risk for the Giants is that they string together 5+ or so wins

LMU93119October 13, 2018 08:03AM

  Re: To add to that...

dzrams140October 13, 2018 01:25PM

  Re: To add to that...

zn146October 13, 2018 01:36PM

  Whoever the new QB is...

jemach192October 13, 2018 07:01PM

  An illustration of just how set the Rams are at key spots...

Rams43163October 12, 2018 07:08AM

  One thing you can count on...

jemach143October 12, 2018 11:52AM

  It was a horrible choice imho

RamUK199October 12, 2018 07:19AM

  Barry Sanders...and Walter Peyton...

jemach253October 12, 2018 11:58AM

  Those are two pretty huge "IF's"

Suh-weet!134October 13, 2018 05:16PM

  Thoughts from Gil Brandt...

jemach181October 12, 2018 01:08PM

  Disagree. That works for every position but QB.

RockRam139October 13, 2018 04:49AM

  Your saying Darnold was the choice?

jemach136October 13, 2018 07:22PM

  Imagine what Barkely can do once the Giants stop quitting

chunkmeister170October 13, 2018 12:31AM

  Re: all comes down to Eli

spagsbacker114October 13, 2018 10:49PM

  No way. QB is the hardest, most important, position to acquire

RockRam270October 13, 2018 04:41AM

  Re: Is it Currently the hardest to acquire though?

dzrams115October 13, 2018 02:25PM

  thats a real stretch

ferragamo79122October 13, 2018 06:01PM

  Re: Ok...even with your count...

dzrams233October 13, 2018 06:46PM

  Darnold would be riding the pine...

jemach125October 13, 2018 07:19PM

  Re: Darnold would be riding the pine...

NJRam715120October 13, 2018 07:43PM

  Re: Darnold would be riding the pine...

dzrams109October 13, 2018 07:46PM

  +1...

jemach104October 14, 2018 04:42AM

  LOL....

jemach98October 14, 2018 04:41AM

  Re: IMO...the Giants did the right thing in taking Barkley...

David Deacon107October 14, 2018 07:34AM