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Does anyone know why the NFL is crediting the Rams with a sack on that play where Rivers took the snap, pitched it to a receiver who pitched it to Allen, who slowed, looked to pass, then pulled it down and tried to run? Why would it be a sack when the player wasn't a QB, didn't take the snap and on an option? Should have just been a run for loss IMO.
As I understand it, since he was a passer on that play, the fact that he pulls it down and runs is the same with a qb. The passer is sacked if tackled behind the LOS, whether he has pulled the ball down or not. Since Allen was a passer on that play, that's what counts.
That's a big assumption for the official scorer to make. Why would the assumption be that he's a passer when a) he's not a QB and b) he didn't pass it? He wasn't even tackled in the act of passing, he was tackled in the act of running.
Seems to me if it's going to boil down to the scorer assuming the intention of the player, when Allen was tackled he was clearly running and not passing. He had a RPO, was not a QB and didn't take the snap. To me, it would be the equivalent of charging a sack on a jet sweep that went for a loss.
He was a passer on that play. That was evident. It wasn't an assumption.
The play is here, at 5:24 in. Allen sets up, he's a passer.
You don't have to pass it to be the passer, you just need to set up to pass the ball.
And once he's a passer, it doesn't matter if he runs instead. At that point, it;s no different from when the qb is the passer. It's still a sack if the qb gets tackled behind the LOS if he pulls down and runs.
Think of it this way. When you sack a player, it's always the passer. A sack means tackling the passer behind the LOS. Vast vast majority of the time, the passer is a qb. This is one of those rare cases where the passer is not a qb. Doesn't matter, he's a passer. When the passer pulls the ball down to run it's still a sack.
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