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Re: and I don't - Shocking

July 25, 2018 11:41AM
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After the Cooks & Gurley deals... there is no logical reason to believe the Rams are low balling Donald. So, I don't think it's just V.B.'s opinion.... I am beginning to believe it's a lot of peoples belief that it is the Donald camp that is balking.

So it looks to me like:

1. There is a deal in place, and for what ever reason, all parties have agreed to announce it at the right time.

2. Donald's camp is asking for more than the Rams feel is fare.

I hope it's #1.

I don't think his logic is sound at all. He's making a bunch of assumptions and basing a lot of it on not knowing real figures.

If you read different people on this, you come away with different impressions. Some put the delay on the Rams because they are not coming through with what you should pay the best defender in the league in 2018.

Are they right?

We don;t know if they are anymore than we know if VB is.

AGREEMENT WITH VB IS JUST ON THE INDIVIDUAL POSTER...that is, if you share his assumptions, then, he looks good on this issue. If you don;t, he doesn't. AND THERE IS NO *REAL* WAY TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. Not with what we actually know.

So I would say the people who think VB's more pro-management take is good, were just inclined to see it that way themselves. Those people who in contrast agree with less pro-management oriented takes are doing the exact same thing. That's just how they personally are inclined to see it. THE FACTS do not support ANY view right now though.

To me VB is only "logical" if you're inclined to share his assumptions.

Other than that, to me, VB is just one view among other writers who are saying different things about all this. Without real facts to make a real judgment, all we are really going to get at this point is just different views, with no REAL way to choose between them.


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From the article:

"The Rams have demonstrated they are willing to pay at the top of a position market – as they did with Gurley to reset the running back market – or competitively by making Cooks among the highest-paid receivers in the game. It stands to reason they’d do the same for Donald, coming off a 2017 season in which he was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year and racked up 91 quarterback pressures in 14 games.

Given the Cooks and Gurley contracts, you’d be on the safest of grounds to deduce the Rams have offered Donald a deal that makes him the highest-paid defensive player in the history of the NFL and makes him the first non-quarterback to break the $20 million per year threshold. "


This doesn't sound logical? Or is it too "pro-management" for you? He's not saying he knows anything, he is making a logical argument, which again I find pretty sound.

I've read every post on the AD contract situation and no matter how hard you try to come across as fair and balanced you clearly have a bias towards AD, and that is perfectly fine. Just be honest about it.



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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Shot across the bow?

headslapper746July 24, 2018 03:38PM

  Probably not

RockRam279July 24, 2018 03:47PM

  Re: Probably not

headslapper385July 24, 2018 04:03PM

  Re: Probably not

Ramsdude226July 24, 2018 04:10PM

  AD is a great player. But that doesn't mean he's a great guy. (nm)

RockRam231July 24, 2018 04:35PM

  Re: AD is a great player. But that doesn't mean he's a great guy. (nm)

PHDram231July 24, 2018 05:01PM

  real unlikely

zn295July 24, 2018 04:57PM

  Re: real unlikely

headslapper219July 24, 2018 06:03PM

  The Bonsignore article seems to validate

headslapper270July 24, 2018 06:07PM

  Re: The Bonsignore article seems to validate

zn271July 24, 2018 07:35PM

  Re: The Bonsignore article seems to validate

RamsFanSinceLA235July 25, 2018 06:48AM

  "...I think his logic is sound..." I agree

RAMbler212July 25, 2018 08:18AM

  Re: "...I think his logic is sound..." I agree

Rampage2K-310July 25, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: "...I think his logic is sound..." I agree

Ramsdude198July 25, 2018 09:32AM

  and I don't

zn183July 25, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: and I don't

Rampage2K-235July 25, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: and I don't

LARams17234July 25, 2018 11:33AM

  Re: and I don't

zn260July 25, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: and I don't

Ramsdude171July 25, 2018 12:14PM

  The biggest enigma is Donald

max332July 25, 2018 11:35AM

  the biggest issue is sheer speculation

zn190July 25, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: The biggest enigma is Donald

Ramsdude150July 25, 2018 12:25PM

  Re: and I don't - Shocking

RamsFanSinceLA204July 25, 2018 11:41AM

  Re: and I don't - Shocking

zn233July 25, 2018 12:26PM

  Re: and I don't - Shocking

Rampage2K-216July 25, 2018 12:37PM