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Re: false dichotomy

July 13, 2018 09:48AM
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I do agree he is worth 2 pro bowl players...which would be 22-25 million right?

But, there has to be a limit. HE isn't as valuable as Goff to the team, and we have a sallary cap. sumtin' gotta give.

Would have rather have 40 million (after tax) in the bank and a super bowl victory, or 65 million in the bank and no super bowl? I'll take the super bowl, and so would most. AD can't see that now at 27 years old, but some day he will.
And, yes, I do know that 65 mill and the superbowl vict is the best answer.


Spoilin' a super bowl run ain't fun, but it is his perogative. Ya, he really needs the extra 25 mill to live on....lol

THIS IS NOT the difference between a $120k salar and a 90k salary. the 'net' difference is the diff between living well and scraping by (in a big metro city).

I love the word ''dichotomy"---good job ZN!

Every player faces the "you should accept less than your market value" argument and when it comes to second contracts, which is the big payoff contract for most players (ie. you don't even know if you will have a third contract), they rarely if ever give a hometeam discount (in fact I can't think of anyone). It;s the market and how it works. The "but you don't need the money" arguments from we fans who want them to sign for less never makes a dent---and I think, rightly so. Our moral vision of how much money players should be content to live with is just not a factor. Some people cite Brady as an example (a lonely example) of a player content to take less...but that's not really a fair comparison. In his 2nd and 3rd contracts Brady absolutely cashed in and at one point was absolutely the highest paid player in the league. He didn't start doing the hometeam discount stuff until after that, after he had already made his 100 + a lot more millions. Meanwhile to this point Donald has been paid 11 M for 4 years, which is just laughably way below his market value as a player.

And the way I see the math yes they can sign both Donald and Goff and have room for a core group of other top contracts. I don't see the cap as an issue. They say 60% of the cap goes to your top players and in the 2020 the cap will be 200 M. That's workable. I don't have any worries there.

Same discussion came up in 2000 when Zygmunt balked at paying Warner what he was worth and went public with that sentiment. The then version of this board debated that and a lot of posters sided with management and suggest Warner was asking too much. I defended Warner then. I think it's the same thing now, defending Donald.


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I don't remember anybody complaining about Warner getting 6 years $47M after what he had just done for this long suffering franchise???

Man I wish we still had archives of those days on the herd.....

Wow....crazy how much more money scrubs make these days than a league MVP Super Bowl winning QB less the 20 years agoconfused smiley

When will this "well I need $X million more than the last guy" type of cycle end??? The current system is just simply unsustainable.

It is no wonder most people are simply priced out of just going to games these days, let alone P$L's.....





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  2 pieces on Donald

zn634July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn210July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin110July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn81July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve30July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn31July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-35July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn31July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams22July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn57July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn10July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach87July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn71July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9359July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach18July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan19July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach18July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn20July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach12July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude44July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams31July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach16July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-86July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams54July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn45July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams33July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-29July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams29July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-27July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams24July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-22July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram41July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-29July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams33July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-23July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams24July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-26July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn27July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-25July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn26July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram25July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams24July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn25July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram25July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams24July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram20July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn17July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram17July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams20July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram20July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude28July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn31July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Speedball8925July 13, 2018 09:11AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams23July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram34July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn14July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam34July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn33July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM28July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4321July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams20July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4318July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams18July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4317July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude14July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams12July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  but at tag prices

zn17July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken12July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach18July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn18July 16, 2018 04:31PM