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Re: #2 "agents take" haha

July 13, 2018 04:26AM
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Yeah doubtful he would just walk but in a way that's semantics....dz is just saying this Rams front office has tended not to come through on top contracts so far. They let Jenkins walk because they lowballed him, he took another offer (the difference was 25% more). and they only had one tag which they used on Tru. But if they don't sign AD and try to tag him, he can simply stay out and demand a trade. People had a hard time coming up with examples of top players who demanded to be traded who DIDN'T get traded. It's hard for teams to get nothing for a guy while he sits out. Especially since in the Rams case, if they tag him, he still counts against the cap even if he doesn't take the money.


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If I had a nickle for every time you typed the word "lowball" I could retire. lol The Rams have over paid players in the past TA and Ogletree are examples so IMO it's unfair to try and label them as a "lowball" team. This might have been triue back when Ziggy was here but not now IMO. Have they let players walk without over paying? Sure. Janoris "Dead Body in my house" Jenkins could have been offered more but Tru was playing well at the time too. Tough decision but I wouldn't say they "lowballed" him.

Then why make an offer to JJ at all? You know teams know how to simply not make an offer when they don't want a guy. Happens all the time.

The offer was a lowball. That;s whether others like that word or not. The Rams offered 9 M and the Giants 12.5 M. That year Norman got 15 M.

Whether they're offering enough to Donald given the market or whether Donald is asking too much or whether it's both at once, we don't know. The reporters who rely on the management perspective to talk about this naturally make it sound as if Donald is asking too much. The reporters who rely on the agents's perspective naturally make it sound as if management is balking at Donald's market value. Without actual figures, it is impossible to say which is real or if either one is.

Fisher btw blamed Snead for losing Jenkins and McLeod.

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“I was told that there wasn’t going to be any issues – they were going to be re-signed – and we lost them."

[theramswire.usatoday.com]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/13/2018 04:49AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn970July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn336July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin225July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn144July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve89July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn79July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-93July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn97July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams81July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn161July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn96July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn52July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach148July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn119July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU93112July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach50July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan48July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach48July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn53July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach56July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude124July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams79July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach49July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-179July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams130July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn129July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams119July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-89July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams68July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-99July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams58July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-51July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram124July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-85July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams103July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-57July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams102July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-59July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn59July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-58July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn59July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram59July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams56July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn61July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram98July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams63July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram50July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn48July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram55July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams55July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram100July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude110July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn116July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams63July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram97July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn51July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam87July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn67July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM113July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4353July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams52July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4356July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams63July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4356July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude54July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams49July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram44July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn59July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken51July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam52July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn49July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam100July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn91July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams43100July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken76July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram78July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn86July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams54July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn59July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude91July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach89July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn74July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach91July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude91July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach55July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams78July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4382July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max64July 18, 2018 03:58AM