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Re: #2 "agents take" haha

July 13, 2018 04:26AM
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Yeah doubtful he would just walk but in a way that's semantics....dz is just saying this Rams front office has tended not to come through on top contracts so far. They let Jenkins walk because they lowballed him, he took another offer (the difference was 25% more). and they only had one tag which they used on Tru. But if they don't sign AD and try to tag him, he can simply stay out and demand a trade. People had a hard time coming up with examples of top players who demanded to be traded who DIDN'T get traded. It's hard for teams to get nothing for a guy while he sits out. Especially since in the Rams case, if they tag him, he still counts against the cap even if he doesn't take the money.


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If I had a nickle for every time you typed the word "lowball" I could retire. lol The Rams have over paid players in the past TA and Ogletree are examples so IMO it's unfair to try and label them as a "lowball" team. This might have been triue back when Ziggy was here but not now IMO. Have they let players walk without over paying? Sure. Janoris "Dead Body in my house" Jenkins could have been offered more but Tru was playing well at the time too. Tough decision but I wouldn't say they "lowballed" him.

Then why make an offer to JJ at all? You know teams know how to simply not make an offer when they don't want a guy. Happens all the time.

The offer was a lowball. That;s whether others like that word or not. The Rams offered 9 M and the Giants 12.5 M. That year Norman got 15 M.

Whether they're offering enough to Donald given the market or whether Donald is asking too much or whether it's both at once, we don't know. The reporters who rely on the management perspective to talk about this naturally make it sound as if Donald is asking too much. The reporters who rely on the agents's perspective naturally make it sound as if management is balking at Donald's market value. Without actual figures, it is impossible to say which is real or if either one is.

Fisher btw blamed Snead for losing Jenkins and McLeod.

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“I was told that there wasn’t going to be any issues – they were going to be re-signed – and we lost them."

[theramswire.usatoday.com]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/13/2018 04:49AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn940July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn315July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin205July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn134July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve79July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn72July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-79July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn84July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams67July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn138July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn79July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn45July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach136July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn110July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9399July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach45July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan46July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach46July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn50July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach50July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude105July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams70July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach47July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-161July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams117July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn112July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams100July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-75July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams59July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-84July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams54July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-47July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram103July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-76July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams90July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-54July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams80July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-54July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn57July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-52July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn56July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram52July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams49July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn57July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram81July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams58July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram46July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn44July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram49July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams52July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram79July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude92July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn96July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams54July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram79July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn45July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam78July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn63July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM94July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4349July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams50July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4351July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams54July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4352July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude47July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams43July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram40July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn53July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken46July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam48July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn45July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam81July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn74July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4385July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken63July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram62July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn71July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams49July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn54July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude75July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach84July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn69July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach78July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude78July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach49July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams67July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4368July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max59July 18, 2018 03:58AM