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Re: #2 "agents take" haha

July 13, 2018 04:26AM
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Yeah doubtful he would just walk but in a way that's semantics....dz is just saying this Rams front office has tended not to come through on top contracts so far. They let Jenkins walk because they lowballed him, he took another offer (the difference was 25% more). and they only had one tag which they used on Tru. But if they don't sign AD and try to tag him, he can simply stay out and demand a trade. People had a hard time coming up with examples of top players who demanded to be traded who DIDN'T get traded. It's hard for teams to get nothing for a guy while he sits out. Especially since in the Rams case, if they tag him, he still counts against the cap even if he doesn't take the money.


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If I had a nickle for every time you typed the word "lowball" I could retire. lol The Rams have over paid players in the past TA and Ogletree are examples so IMO it's unfair to try and label them as a "lowball" team. This might have been triue back when Ziggy was here but not now IMO. Have they let players walk without over paying? Sure. Janoris "Dead Body in my house" Jenkins could have been offered more but Tru was playing well at the time too. Tough decision but I wouldn't say they "lowballed" him.

Then why make an offer to JJ at all? You know teams know how to simply not make an offer when they don't want a guy. Happens all the time.

The offer was a lowball. That;s whether others like that word or not. The Rams offered 9 M and the Giants 12.5 M. That year Norman got 15 M.

Whether they're offering enough to Donald given the market or whether Donald is asking too much or whether it's both at once, we don't know. The reporters who rely on the management perspective to talk about this naturally make it sound as if Donald is asking too much. The reporters who rely on the agents's perspective naturally make it sound as if management is balking at Donald's market value. Without actual figures, it is impossible to say which is real or if either one is.

Fisher btw blamed Snead for losing Jenkins and McLeod.

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“I was told that there wasn’t going to be any issues – they were going to be re-signed – and we lost them."

[theramswire.usatoday.com]

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/13/2018 04:49AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  2 pieces on Donald

zn909July 12, 2018 03:57AM

  plus some tweets

zn301July 12, 2018 04:45AM

  Re: DL has elite ranking in game and we lost

merlin191July 12, 2018 07:00AM

  false dichotomy

zn127July 12, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Steve71July 13, 2018 05:06AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn66July 13, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: false dichotomy

Rampage2K-74July 13, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: false dichotomy

zn71July 13, 2018 10:24AM

  Re: false dichotomy

dzrams58July 13, 2018 08:37AM

  more tweets

zn121July 12, 2018 07:51PM

  and even more stuff

zn68July 16, 2018 05:37PM

  and still even more stuff

zn39July 20, 2018 07:29PM

  I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

jemach128July 12, 2018 04:56AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

zn102July 12, 2018 05:15AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

LMU9394July 12, 2018 05:40AM

  I Agree on guaranteed money...

jemach39July 13, 2018 03:45AM

  Re: IF AD is not worth the money.........

oldschoolramfan41July 14, 2018 05:48AM

  i posted well in advance of that poll...

jemach40July 13, 2018 03:47AM

  Re

zn46July 13, 2018 04:06AM

  I tend to be an early adopter...

jemach43July 16, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

Ramsdude94July 12, 2018 06:31AM

  Re: I was always thinking Donald would be in the range of...

dzrams62July 12, 2018 10:08AM

  So you compare this team to last years team?

jemach39July 13, 2018 03:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-146July 12, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams103July 12, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

zn96July 12, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: We don't know the numbers but...

dzrams89July 12, 2018 10:45AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-69July 12, 2018 10:39AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams54July 12, 2018 11:42AM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-71July 12, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

dzrams48July 12, 2018 01:23PM

  Re: We've gotten the GM's take already...

Rampage2K-42July 12, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram92July 12, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-65July 12, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams76July 12, 2018 11:46AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-45July 12, 2018 12:54PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams67July 12, 2018 01:06PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-47July 12, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn51July 12, 2018 02:13PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Rampage2K-47July 12, 2018 02:40PM

  no that's not the case

zn49July 12, 2018 02:52PM

  kind of like Watkins imo

Atlantic Ram46July 12, 2018 03:07PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams44July 12, 2018 05:09PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn48July 12, 2018 05:22PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram64July 12, 2018 07:57PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams51July 12, 2018 08:02PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram40July 12, 2018 10:17PM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn39July 13, 2018 08:08AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram42July 13, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams45July 13, 2018 08:48AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Atlantic Ram65July 13, 2018 09:24AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

Ramsdude79July 13, 2018 02:50AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

zn82July 13, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: #2 "agents take" haha

dzrams46July 12, 2018 05:27PM

  I would be surprised if less than $23M

Atlantic Ram68July 12, 2018 03:11PM

  +1 (NM)

zn38July 13, 2018 09:05AM

  Agree to a point.

RockRam71July 14, 2018 05:05AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

zn56July 14, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

VANRAM78July 16, 2018 01:27AM

  Re: Agree to a point.

Rams4342July 16, 2018 05:36AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams44July 16, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4343July 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams43July 16, 2018 08:27AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Rams4340July 16, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: Actually it does...

Ramsdude39July 16, 2018 10:04AM

  Re: Actually it does...

dzrams35July 16, 2018 11:16AM

  4th reason

AlbaNY_Ram33July 17, 2018 05:55AM

  but at tag prices

zn44July 16, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: but at tag prices

Ken38July 16, 2018 12:12PM

  Not play under the tag? Of course he will.

RockRam41July 17, 2018 02:49AM

  nope

zn38July 17, 2018 04:29AM

  He IS signed! That's the point.

RockRam69July 17, 2018 02:40AM

  you're not following the conversation

zn63July 17, 2018 04:31AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Rams4369July 17, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

Ken47July 17, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

AlbaNY_Ram51July 17, 2018 03:15PM

  that's what they were going to do with Tru

zn59July 17, 2018 05:57PM

  Re: you're not following the conversation

dzrams38July 17, 2018 09:20AM

  as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

zn47July 17, 2018 09:29AM

  Re: as per our entire discussion of the trade scenario

Ramsdude61July 17, 2018 12:58PM

  So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

jemach73July 16, 2018 01:29PM

  Re: So you're saying that $1.5 to $3.0 on a $20+ million contract...

zn60July 16, 2018 04:31PM

  At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

jemach62July 17, 2018 09:07AM

  Re: At some time...this has to wear on a player psychologically...

Ramsdude66July 17, 2018 12:34PM

  I would say I feel better...

jemach42July 18, 2018 03:44AM

  Re: +++1

dzrams54July 18, 2018 06:44AM

  Re: +++1

Rams4359July 18, 2018 07:18AM

  Take the QBs out of it...

max53July 18, 2018 03:58AM