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Re: Irv Pankey interview: "Goff the one player I'd want"

July 06, 2018 03:59AM
That was a golden OL era for sure and part of it was the great Rams OL coach, Hudson Houk.

Here's an interesting thing about that OL. It was the last of a long series of great OLs. Not sure a lot of people realize this, but, there is at least one Ram lineman in the pro bowl every single season from 1967 until 1990. That’s 12 different pro-bowl lineman across 24 consecutive years. In fact the 68 line had 4 pro bowlers, as did the 78 line and the 85 line.

After Dickerson left he never did as well as he did with the Rams. Meanwhile, after Dickerson left, the Rams continued to field pro bowl linemen from 87-90. In the process they made top 1000+ yard running backs out of Charles White and Greg Bell.

Doug Smith went to 6 pro bowls starting in 84, continuing through 89. Dennis Harrah went to pro bowls in 78-80 and 85-87. Jackie Slater went to pro bowls in 83 & 85-90. After the 79 superbowl, John Madden said Slater’s performance in that game was the finest he had ever seen from a right tackle. Kent Hill went to pro bowls in 80 and 82-85. Newberry had 2 pro bowls–88 & 89. Irv Pankey never went to a pro bowl and probably deserve to. Doug France went to pro bowls from 77-78. Rich Saul went to pro bowls from 76-81. Charlie Cowan went to pro bowls from 68-70. Tom Mack went to pro bowls from 67-75 and 77-78. Tom Carollo went to 1 pro bowl (68). Same with Joe Scibelli (68). Bob Brown had 2 pro bowls as a Ram (69-70).

On Pankey and Slater, from 1990:


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PRO FOOTBALL; It's a Dirty Job, and 2 Rams Do It as Well as Anyone

1990

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There is no glamour down there. It is dirt and grass stains, grunting and grabbing, a sea of arms and feet and numbers, and a pile of bodies. It is everything about football and yet nothing.

From autumn into winter, the game is played on the line, a place where the strong and the strong-willed survive but where careers can seemingly end in a blink. But there are exceptions. Exhibits A and B: Jackie Slater and Irv Pankey, the two Los Angeles Rams tackles who will step onto the turf of Giants Stadium today. They will be seen and heard from, although not likely noticed.

Two Dozen Years of Experience

Slater and Pankey are cornerstones of the Rams' offense line, combining 24 years of experience and untold bruises. But theirs are necessary jobs.

Last Sunday at Philadelphia, Slater, who is completing his 14th season, held the Eagles' All-Pro defensive end, Reggie White, to one sack. Eight weeks ago, Pankey limited Lawrence Taylor, the Giants' relentless linebacker, to two tackles and no sacks.

''The line,'' Jim Everett, the Rams' quarterback, said last week, ''makes a huge difference in winning the game. It can win the game.''

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Pankey's performance against Taylor today could become decisive. Without an effective pass rush, the Giants may be unable to keep Everett from reaching his receivers for long completions.

But if Taylor gets through, Pankey knows he will meet his critics.

Fearful of Madden

''That's how it always works with Lawrence Taylor,'' he said the other day before the Rams worked out at their training complex. ''You give up a sack, and John Madden is going to draw it up on the TV screen and run it in slow motion.''

To their credit, Pankey and Slater - and Doug Smith, the center who is in his 12th season - have aged gracefully. They helped Everett pass for more than 4,000 yards this season, a team record, and their protection limited opponents to just one sack of the quarterback in the last three weeks of the regular season. Pankey, Slater and Smith are the team's offensive captains.

''They're a very positive factor,'' John Robinson, the Rams' coach, said of the offensive linemen. ''The year I coached with the Raiders in 1975, we had people like Shell and Upshaw and Dalby, a lot of old, experienced guys. Veteran players on the offensive line are important to a team. And they have a difficult job, as hard a time getting ready to play as anybody other than the quarterback.''

Slater and Pankey have done it for so long that it is second nature. But as time passes, skills deteriorate. Slater, who was selected to play in the Pro Bowl for the sixth time in seven seasons, realizes it almost weekly.

''You say to yourself on occasion, 'I'm 35 years old and that kid on the other side of the line is 22, and I'm expected to knock him down,' '' he said. ''He comes at you hard and knocks you down, but maybe the next time, you knock him down. That's when you say, 'Maybe this age thing isn't as bad as people say it is.' ''

A Hard Worker

Slater's longevity is more a tribute to his off-season work habits than anything else. When the season ends, he takes one month off, then begins a regimen of running, stretching and lifting weights that will take him into training camp.

''He's a true professional,'' said Hudson Houck, the Rams' offensive line coach. ''He works and practices harder than any man I've ever coached. He has a tremendous amount of pride in his work ethic, as well as being a very good athlete.''

Slater said: ''If I couldn't work out in the off season, I don't think I could play. It's no coincidence that a guy my age with a wife and a 4-year-old son wants to lift weights. Younger guys go out and party, but I enjoy the game and I want to keep playing.''

How long? Robinson said that Slater was not through, that he could continue for perhaps another two seasons. If he does, Slater would have 16 years of service with the Rams, surpassing Charlie Cowan, Joe Scibelli and Merlin Olsen, who each played 15 seasons. With another 14 games, Slater would pass Olsen for most games played. Slater will play in his 196th game today.

''Jackie is 35 going on 30,'' said Robinson, who compared Slater to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the Laker center who retired at 41 but found ways to contribute until the end. ''Without getting emotional about it, I think Jackie can play two more years.''

Slater said he remembered watching the emergence of Pankey in 1980, when the second-round draft pick out of Penn State joined the team.

''It struck me right away,'' he said, ''that this was a big, talented kid who could run and was strong. There was no doubt in my mind that he could play. It was just a question of how soon and which tackle.''

Pankey, who is 31, said he had outlasted others in the game because of an ability to correct flaws in his style.

''Technique,'' he said. ''I know what beats Irv Pankey. I know what my weaknesses are. If I'm technically sound, I can compensate for any part of me that I need to.''

And something else: ''The quarterback makes all this money,'' he said, smiling. ''I've got to protect my interest.''



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/06/2018 04:02AM by zn.
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max1141July 06, 2018 01:47AM

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max221July 06, 2018 03:43AM

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Steve175July 06, 2018 10:36AM

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zn493July 06, 2018 03:59AM

  nice article and research

max257July 06, 2018 04:27AM

  Re: nice article and research

zn170July 06, 2018 04:48AM

  Pankey was the HC at our local JC

21Dog275July 06, 2018 05:14AM

  I was 8 in 89

no name244July 06, 2018 03:49AM

  Yep, never tire of this

RamUK171July 06, 2018 04:10AM

  I was there. Everett wasn’t great. He was good.

max229July 06, 2018 04:29AM

  Re: I was there. Everett wasn’t great. He was good.

no name116July 08, 2018 03:19PM

  Smacks of bitterness toward Everett to me

RamUK279July 06, 2018 03:57AM

  Did you see the game?

max212July 06, 2018 04:39AM

  Yes I did

RamUK198July 06, 2018 05:15AM

  as I recall.....

21Dog189July 06, 2018 05:16AM

  Re: as I recall.....

max167July 06, 2018 05:59AM

  Man, tough crowd...

sacram173July 06, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: Man, tough crowd...

zn284July 06, 2018 09:17AM

  Re: Man, tough crowd...

sacram402July 06, 2018 09:31AM

  well it was 4 consecutive road games

zn124July 06, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: well it was 4 consecutive road games

sacram149July 06, 2018 09:45AM

  Re: well it was 4 consecutive road games

zn124July 06, 2018 10:31AM

  an old Python joke

21Dog175July 06, 2018 12:20PM

  One of my fav sketches was the "I'd like to have an Argument" bit.

SunTzu_vs_Camus245July 06, 2018 07:50PM

  No it isn't - nm.

CeeZar173July 07, 2018 12:03PM

  LOL..nice CeeZar!

SunTzu_vs_Camus120July 07, 2018 03:36PM

  Ministry of Silly Walks

CeeZar217July 08, 2018 03:34AM

  Re: One of my fav sketches was the "I'd like to have an Argument" bit.

zn200July 07, 2018 03:00PM

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Rams43206July 06, 2018 06:38AM

  Pankey was very bright

stlramz198July 06, 2018 07:51AM

  cool story NM

ferragamo79129July 06, 2018 09:48AM

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Steve172July 06, 2018 10:34AM

  His hardest player to block

Steve524July 06, 2018 11:08AM

  Goff is very good but that is an overstatement

Rams_81292July 08, 2018 09:46AM

  it’s a personal opinion by a former Ram player

max171July 08, 2018 10:06AM

  Re: Goff is very good but that is an overstatement

Rams43235July 08, 2018 10:14AM

  however there are other QBs I would chose

Rams_81280July 08, 2018 11:19AM

  you got totally off track

max266July 08, 2018 11:55AM

  If it is close and the rams are trailing in 4th qtr

Rams_81160July 08, 2018 01:59PM

  Re: If it is close and the rams are trailing in 4th qtr

max169July 08, 2018 02:29PM

  I think he will be better - I hope he is

Rams_81158July 08, 2018 04:38PM

  Re: Goff is very good but that is an overstatement

Steve136July 08, 2018 09:51PM

  Re: Goff is very good but that is an overstatement

Rampage2K-195July 08, 2018 01:06PM

  yes Fisher brought him down to with

Rams_81179July 08, 2018 01:57PM

  Everett himself on a lot of this

zn256July 08, 2018 08:23PM