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I don't think 20+ M resets the market

July 03, 2018 04:17PM
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dzrams
Here's the part we don't know. Who's been whispering in his agent's ear about what he possibly could get?

If he's demanding in the mid $20's, is there a team willing to reset the market for him and get close? What if he could get $24M per year from someone else?

That would equate to $96M over 4 years between 2019 - 2022.

As you can see, without knowing the low which was the offer last year and the potential high, we have no idea if he's playing this wrong or right.

Forgive me for just going over this again, but sometimes that helps clarify things. The market for 2nd contracts goes up. (2nd contracts is the real issue of course.)

Von Miller got 19 M in 2016. That's three contract years ago. If Donald's contract follows every other contract for top players, then in 2018, 19 M is a dated number.

Look at qbs. In 2015, Wilson signed for 22 M. In 2017, Carr signed for 25 M. In 2018, Cousins signed for 28 M. If Goff came up now and they offered him 2016 money (let's say that's 23 M) it would not cut it. That's a lowball.

So how much is Donald worth now? Good question. In the last board poll we had on this, the majority voted for something between 21 M and 24 M. I would say that's a fair perception.

If the Rams are currently offering 19 M that's a lowball. If Donald is asking for 25 M, that's just not that outrageous. If they compromised at 23, that would sound okay both ways to me. If he got 24 M, I would not consider that too much.

But of course as you say right now no one actually knows the numbers, and anyone claiming we do know has no real basis for saying that. It's possible to speculate but that's all it is, is speculation.





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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/2018 04:20PM by zn.
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  Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rampage2K-985July 02, 2018 06:16PM

  Yep. Agree with Polian the whole way

RockRam294July 03, 2018 02:15AM

  Re: Not quite...

dzrams299July 03, 2018 09:03AM

  Re: Not quite...

zn827July 03, 2018 09:19AM

  I would seriously consider sitting out

Atlantic Ram334July 04, 2018 08:03AM

  I agree with a lot of that on Donald... but on Bosa...

zn208July 04, 2018 09:47AM

  Thanks for the info on Bosa

Atlantic Ram110July 04, 2018 10:00AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

Rampage2K-161July 04, 2018 10:13AM

  no

zn157July 04, 2018 06:12PM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-118July 04, 2018 07:52PM

  Re: no

zn112July 05, 2018 12:36AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-110July 05, 2018 01:35AM

  Re: no

zn106July 05, 2018 01:45AM

  Re: no

Rampage2K-248July 05, 2018 01:54AM

  Re: Thanks for the info on Bosa

zn188July 04, 2018 11:11AM

  Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

RockRam219July 03, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

dzrams270July 03, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: It's the dictionary definition of "leverage"

bigjimram21151July 04, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: But that amount is still on the Rams salary cap books (nm)

dzrams121July 04, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Ramsdude274July 03, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

dzrams167July 03, 2018 10:17AM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

Rampage2K-542July 03, 2018 10:55AM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

dzrams250July 03, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: As expected...missed the point

Rampage2K-245July 03, 2018 11:12AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams210July 03, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-531July 03, 2018 11:48AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

dzrams198July 03, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

Rampage2K-312July 03, 2018 12:40PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

dzrams159July 03, 2018 02:41PM

  Re: Let's do some math...

Rampage2K-103July 03, 2018 03:32PM

  I don't think 20+ M resets the market

zn178July 03, 2018 04:17PM

  Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rams43222July 04, 2018 06:24AM

  one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess... "DITTO"

Anonymous User228July 04, 2018 06:42AM

  LOL "fake knives"

Rampage2K-185July 04, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams106July 04, 2018 09:48AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

Rampage2K-315July 04, 2018 09:57AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

dzrams111July 04, 2018 10:02AM

  Re: Can you stop missing the point? LOL

Rampage2K-114July 04, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

CeeZar145July 04, 2018 11:02AM

  Re: Depends on one’s definition of “leverage”, I guess...

dzrams245July 04, 2018 11:37AM

  Re: We all know that point...it's been repeated 10's of 1000's of times already

zn161July 03, 2018 12:09PM

  Re: As expected...a none response...

bigjimram21116July 04, 2018 01:41PM

  Re: Well, I don't call not playing and not getting paid "leverage"

waterfield133July 04, 2018 12:41PM

  I'll answer the tag and he sits question.

RockRam271July 03, 2018 11:08AM

  Re: An Answer! Thank you....one problem...

dzrams233July 03, 2018 11:19AM

  "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

RockRam352July 03, 2018 11:24AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

zn287July 03, 2018 11:49AM

  Re: "Decreases their chances of winning the SB"

Ramsdude104July 03, 2018 01:38PM

  Re: here is your answer..."nothing."

spagsbacker207July 03, 2018 02:27PM

  Re: Great...

dzrams146July 03, 2018 02:43PM

  Donald can become a huge disruption...

jemach117July 03, 2018 10:41AM

  Re: Donald can become a huge disruption...

Rampage2K-113July 03, 2018 10:49AM

  He knows no more than you or I...

jemach107July 03, 2018 10:56AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

dzrams106July 03, 2018 11:07AM

  Re: The playing field evens up at that point...

Ramsdude114July 03, 2018 01:48PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

RockRam108July 03, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

zn184July 03, 2018 11:58AM

  Re: No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing is a myth.

Ramsdude107July 03, 2018 01:54PM

  No way he's a disruption because the disruption thing.......

Anonymous User130July 03, 2018 04:05PM

  Re: Article - Donald has been given some bad advise

Rams43196July 03, 2018 06:10AM

  agent mom

wv ram157July 03, 2018 08:11AM

  Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rampage2K-261July 03, 2018 09:22AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude167July 03, 2018 01:55PM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

waterfield152July 04, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Rams43198July 04, 2018 06:37AM

  Re: Guess who’s Bosa’s agent?

Ramsdude152July 04, 2018 07:29AM

  The Rams won't get past round 1 without Donald...

jemach325July 03, 2018 10:43AM

  Re: I agree...

dzrams199July 03, 2018 11:40AM

  My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

RFL210July 04, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn181July 04, 2018 10:01AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rampage2K-290July 04, 2018 10:27AM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

AlbaNY_Ram188July 04, 2018 12:14PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn161July 04, 2018 02:31PM

  I am with you on this all the way (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram97July 04, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

Rams43180July 04, 2018 08:16PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

dzrams243July 04, 2018 08:55PM

  Re: My 2 cents advocating for Aaron Donald

zn196July 05, 2018 12:24AM