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Re: JJ, TruJ, Watkins

June 29, 2018 08:03PM
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RamBill

Neither JJ, TruJ, or Watkins are on Donald's level. Donald is truly elite. Those guys are not. There were issues with all of them. They made a mistake by keeping TruJ over JJ, but TruJ isn't near to being elite. JJ is a better player but there is risks associated with him that would make you hesitant to give him elite money. Watkins still has his injury questions and for whatever reasons he didn't play for the Rams like someone worthy of getting elite money.

So Donald will really be the first true test of whether the Rams are willing to pay for truly elite players. We'll see what happens.

Donald is ultra elite and the other three aren't on his level. I can agree with that.

But I don't see this as the first true test because the other three, while maybe not elite, were well above average players that were going to require salaries significantly above $10M.

If you're only going to go by how they handle a player on Donald's level, you're not going to have many opportunities to ascertain their philosophy on how they handle the solidly above average to elite category. So IMO it's way too narrow to only limit the test to an AD type.

So far they are 0 for 3. Contrast that with the fact that they've extended several players in the average/$10M range and a pattern appears to be emerging.

I'm glad they didn't pay Watkins or TruJ the money they ended up getting on the open market. I think that's smart...they didn't think they were worth it and I agree. JJ is a different case. They had only one tag and they used it on TruJ. Once they did that, JJ was gone because they couldn't afford 2 CB's getting franchise level dollars. The mistake was picking TruJ over JJ...who's a better player. JJ shouldn't even be in this discussion because he wasn't in the same situation as Watkins and TruJ.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2018 08:04PM by RamBill.
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  Demoff: Talks with Aaron Donald have been 'great'

RamBill939June 26, 2018 06:55PM

  I like this line:

stlramz399June 26, 2018 09:07PM

  Re: I like this line:

zn301June 26, 2018 09:36PM

  Re: I like this line:

max376June 26, 2018 11:18PM

  Re: I like this line:

AlbaNY_Ram238June 27, 2018 12:32AM

  Good point. Not cheap, incompetent contract staff

max244June 27, 2018 03:25AM

  not the issue though

zn257June 27, 2018 03:31AM

  It’s called incompetent

max266June 27, 2018 03:36AM

  Re: I do NOT want AD to be "top paid defender"

spagsbacker262June 27, 2018 01:03AM

  Re: I do NOT want AD to be "top paid defender"

AlbaNY_Ram255June 27, 2018 01:24AM

  Re: I ignore those posts...

spagsbacker300June 27, 2018 02:30AM

  Re: I ignore those posts...

AlbaNY_Ram205June 27, 2018 03:18AM

  They won’t pay him more than they have to

max233June 27, 2018 03:21AM

  trade

zn258June 27, 2018 03:35AM

  Yeah, I’m worried about Demoff

max254June 27, 2018 03:40AM

  you're right, yes you can

zn267June 27, 2018 03:57AM

  Re: you're right, yes you can

LMU93215June 27, 2018 05:34AM

  Re: you're right, yes you can

zn203June 27, 2018 09:37AM

  It would be nice....

wv ram222June 27, 2018 10:32AM

  Keep in mind...

max204June 27, 2018 01:54PM

  show me... less money

wv ram260June 27, 2018 03:27PM

  Re: show me... less money

max219June 28, 2018 12:33AM

  totally agree

CeeZar223June 28, 2018 03:53AM

  wishing

wv ram197June 28, 2018 08:05AM

  Except Donald is far from where Brady is

max161June 28, 2018 04:18PM

  Re: Except Donald is far from where Brady is

zn170June 28, 2018 04:23PM

  yep

max188June 28, 2018 04:35PM

  happiness

wv ram178June 29, 2018 05:30AM

  Re: They may not be cheap but their philosophy is becoming apparent...

dzrams198June 27, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: They may not be cheap but their philosophy is becoming apparent...

zn213June 27, 2018 06:18PM

  JJ, TruJ, Watkins

RamBill244June 29, 2018 05:09AM

  Re: JJ, TruJ, Watkins

dzrams192June 29, 2018 07:31AM

  Re: JJ, TruJ, Watkins

RamBill158June 29, 2018 08:03PM

  Re: JJ v. TruJ

dzrams170June 29, 2018 08:18PM

  Re: JJ v. TruJ

zn164June 30, 2018 04:55AM

  Several things occur to me...

Rams43310June 27, 2018 07:27AM

  You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

BigGame81211June 27, 2018 07:34AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

ramBRO231June 27, 2018 07:53AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

Rams43204June 27, 2018 09:11AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

ramBRO203June 27, 2018 09:21AM

  Re: You don't think Demoff knows what he's doing

Rams43196June 27, 2018 09:33AM

  No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

stlramz204June 27, 2018 09:13AM

  Re: No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

Rams43191June 27, 2018 09:25AM

  Re: No one is going to be highest paid in perpetuity

stlramz190June 27, 2018 10:50AM

  I say offer top D line pay plus a tad more and NO MORE.

Ramgator227June 27, 2018 04:25AM

  that's a low ball

zn239June 27, 2018 04:31AM

  Its gonna be significantly higher than $20M

max201June 27, 2018 04:51AM

  Low ball? How?

Ramgator225June 27, 2018 12:03PM

  because his market value is higher

zn192June 27, 2018 02:53PM

  Re: because his market value is higher

LMU93186June 27, 2018 03:26PM

  Re: Low ball? How?

waterfield193June 27, 2018 03:41PM

  would a guy be happy with being in the top 5 in pay for defensive players.....

roman18222June 27, 2018 07:27AM

  Re: Why should he?

dzrams251June 27, 2018 04:01PM

  Well IMO having a great place to play, having great players....

roman18247June 28, 2018 03:11AM

  Re: The Rams don't have a monopoly on those things...

dzrams187June 28, 2018 06:28AM

  Now I admit I am guessing/wishing on the SB ring part....

roman18218June 28, 2018 07:13AM

  Re: The Rams don't have a monopoly on those things...

Rams43277June 28, 2018 07:18AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams765June 28, 2018 10:08AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

zn708June 28, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

Rams43237June 28, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams172June 28, 2018 04:01PM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

Rams43151June 28, 2018 04:22PM

  Re: @Roman @Rams43....don't underestimate the importance of recognition

dzrams169June 28, 2018 05:11PM

  I get your point......

roman18172June 28, 2018 11:25AM

  who made us psychologists?

zn206June 28, 2018 11:43AM

  Who is saying I am a psychologist, or playing one?

roman18256June 29, 2018 03:16AM

  Re: Who is saying I am a psychologist, or playing one?

zn261June 29, 2018 04:54AM

  I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

RAMbler347June 27, 2018 08:25AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

AlbaNY_Ram211June 27, 2018 08:33AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

Rams43205June 27, 2018 09:16AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

ramBRO212June 27, 2018 09:17AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

Rams43224June 27, 2018 09:38AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

ramBRO223June 27, 2018 10:16AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

Rams43203June 27, 2018 10:42AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

Rampage2K-208June 27, 2018 11:41AM

  Re: I don't get all the fuse? IMO, it's simple.....

AlbaNY_Ram202June 27, 2018 10:35AM

  the "opt out" rumor was last year

zn182June 27, 2018 12:43PM

  Rumor: AD wants to be paid like a top QB...

Rams43226June 29, 2018 09:00AM

  I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

zn285June 29, 2018 09:10AM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

Rams43267June 29, 2018 09:41AM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

ramBRO238June 29, 2018 01:39PM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

Rampage2K-239June 29, 2018 01:08PM

  Re: I doubt it but either way there are no real sources cause no one knows

zn423June 29, 2018 01:48PM

  Re: Rumor: AD wants to be paid like a top QB...

Rampage2K-312June 29, 2018 01:40PM

  Ol Clint said it best....

Ramgator311June 29, 2018 02:23PM

  That rumor sounds like all the other rumors

IowaRam198June 29, 2018 02:03PM