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Re: You keep saying you want him to show he can come from behind....

June 17, 2018 04:02AM
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roman18
and win games. Last season IMO he showed that ability but Coop dropped the ball in the endzone. The year before he was behind every game he played, but he did not have the horses to help him and he had a very poor OC and the coaches around him were terrible. No one, not Brady, Manning, Staubach, Warner etc...could have come from behind to win a game with Fishers game plan. So there went his 1st 7 games.....

But for a guy to also win game from behind he needs a D that can also win from ahead.....He has a team around him that will enable him to do what you, and all of us want to see. He has the ability to do it, but as stated by others I hope he doesn't need to do it often.

Not Brady or Manning? Well except for the ones who did. (The Fisher Rams did have comeback wins.) cool smiley But we all, for different reasons, don;t count 2016 against Goff. My main reason is that it is rare for a qb from an Air Raid system to do well in the NFL (for a long time they were all busts). The handful who eventually did establish themselves sure did not start out fast--they all have bad first years (we don't know yet about Mahomes). The Air Raid puts qbs behinder than most when they become pros. There were a lot of other factors in 2016 too, not just coaching and not just an especially green qb and not just the move. Either way many of us don't count the 2016 struggles against Goff, and a lot of us never doubted him during 2016 either and stuck by him when "bust" talk flew around in the national media.

So anyway 2016 aside.

Fact is though last year, Goff showed he needs to develop in that area. Here's an interesting stat: %Passes Completed, Late & Close. With that, in 2017 Goff was was 45.3% which ranked 31st. To be fair that covers just 53 of his 477 passes but still. ( That stat is here btw: [stats.washingtonpost.com] ).

Comeback wins or not, the team as a whole, including Goff, needs to play better against playoff caliber teams that have both good offenses and top 10 defenses. They played 5 games that meet that definition last year--Jagz, Vikes, Saints, Eagles, and Falcons. They went 2-3 in those games, and arguably Goff played consistently well in one of them (Saints) (Against the Eagles he played well much of the game but along with the rest of the team faded at the end when they had a chance to win it).

He is credited with a comeback win against the Titans. They began the 4th quarter down by three and the game winning drive put them ahead by 4. They also of course turned the Dallas game around though strictly speaking that wasn't a 4th quarter comeback. Both the Titans and Cowboys ended up being 9-7 teams with some issues on offense, so I would not put them in the same rank as the other 5 teams I named.

Anyway, in the 5 games I named, they weren't consistently good. Goff was part of that but then it wasn't all on Goff, either. Regardless, just looking at Goff's part of it, I REALLY doubt that's "who Goff IS." I think he has the internal wiring to be much more consistent and effective in games like that. I think that will be part of his development.
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  Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

Rams431039June 16, 2018 07:17AM

  Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

Rams_81365June 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

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  Re: Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

AlbaNY_Ram331June 17, 2018 04:41AM

  You keep saying you want him to show he can come from behind....

roman18248June 17, 2018 02:43AM

  Re: You keep saying you want him to show he can come from behind....

zn403June 17, 2018 04:02AM

  Re: Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

David Deacon290June 17, 2018 03:36AM

  Re: Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

zn306June 17, 2018 04:07AM

  curley said a lot of things...

max408June 17, 2018 04:17AM

  that's not my take bu that's okay

zn258June 17, 2018 04:36AM

  to be fair I agree with this

zn235June 17, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: to be fair I agree with this

max231June 17, 2018 05:29PM

  Goff will be the 10th ranked QB on top 100 list...

max331June 19, 2018 07:37AM

  Re: to be fair I agree with this

Rampage2K-227June 19, 2018 10:25AM

  Re: to be fair I agree with this

zn321June 19, 2018 11:17AM

  Re: to be fair I agree with this

zn218June 20, 2018 05:39AM

  According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

max250June 19, 2018 03:52PM

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  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

max344June 20, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

zn269June 20, 2018 12:21PM

  I can’t remember the last time I agreed with him

max205June 20, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: I can’t remember the last time I agreed with him

zn234June 20, 2018 12:37PM

  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

Steve306June 22, 2018 06:39AM

  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

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  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

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  Re: curley said a lot of things...

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  Re: curley said a lot of things...

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  Re: curley said a lot of things...

max326June 21, 2018 09:25PM

  Re: curley said a lot of things...

zn196June 22, 2018 04:16AM

  True but theres more...

max225June 22, 2018 04:59AM

  Re: True but theres more...

zn218June 22, 2018 05:16AM

  Goff vs Wentz to me lacks any meaning to me

Rams_81313June 17, 2018 10:33AM

  I obsessed over Manning/Leaf...ended up as a dud

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  Champ Bailey Torry Holt

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