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May 23, 2018 09:41AM
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I would tell A.Donald that he's under rams contract for 3 years.........He can take that deal, or sit and not get paid a penny.

That would backfire spectacularly. There are reasons no one ever does that.

Besides, as Dickerson showed, if you hardball a player that way, the player can demand a trade and do so in a way that leaves the team no choice.

No top player has ever sat for 3 years with the team holding him hostage that way, under those kinds of conditions. Especially no generational player.

The Rams know not even to think about doing something like that.

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Would probably never get to that point, but let's say hypothetically that AD and his agent are holding out for $200,000,000 and won't agree to a penny less, the Rams would have no choice but to let him sit out for the next three years and get paid $0 and see who blinks first...I'm guessing it would be the guy making $0 dollars for the next three years....hypothetically speaking

He can't force them to trade him if the Rams wanted to play hardball like his agent

We can't create this hypothetical where Donald is holding out for 200 M because that's so unlikely that it;s just cartoonish. Agents know the money on 2nd contracts too and no one goes around asking for twice as much. So granting that nothing like that would ever happen.

But we'll pretend. Yes the Rams would have no choice under those circumstances, but the way it looks to me, it's the opposite no choice. They are just not going to risk being seen by the entire league including their own players as forcing a top player, team leader, and one of the stars of NFL football to not play. Plus of course the Rams would be getting nothing for doing that--no trade, no play from Donald. Which would mean they would look like idiots. There is no place in the world of the 2018 NFL for the kind of "ownership gets tough on labor" posturing you're talking about. It would be antiquated thinking on the part of the Rams.

So within the scenario you describe, just like Dickerson...they would trade him.

Again, there is a reason--several, actually---why there are no real examples of scenarios like that.

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Look no further the the storied Pittsburgh Steelers and what they're doing to one of their best players....Le'veon Bell is heading towards his second year under the franchise tag.
It happens, and no riots have ensued....just some training camp holdouts so far

There is no scenario where Bell has not played for 3 years.

Anyway. As it happens the franchise tag numbers for DTs would grossly underpay Donald. By about 6-7 M. That''s on top of a badly underpaid rookie contract (compared to his actual level of play). That would mean, if he spent one year on a tag, the Rams would have underpaid him by a significant amount for 6 straight years. I just don't think the Rams are that kind of masculine equipment. I think they have more integrity than that.

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So it's OK to do it to Bell but not Donald?

I didn't say that. I said the scenario you projected (3 years) has not happened. I will say that the difference between a good RB and a rare elite DT is immense. The good RBs are much more common. Donald is a generational talent with only a handful of equals in all NFL history.

Though I did make a mistake. I said (though I corrected it with an edit) that the tag amount for a DT would pay Donald 6-7 M less than he would get on the market. Actually it's more like 8-10 M.

Bell's tag number has him paid more than the highest paid RB. He wouldn't be coming in at 8-10 M less than his value.

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