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Re: ZN: you "know" the wrong thing

May 21, 2018 08:25AM
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Steve
ZN, I believe it is on Tavon because he missed all the camps, and he didn't know the playbook or what to do.
Yes, Tavon is to blame for his injury. Like all players are (sounds hard, talk to Brady boy)...Why couldn't Tavon come to camp and just run patterns??...and not catch anything...ya, ya, I know ,blah blah blah, lol, but it cost him his career.

Well, that is my take, and I am not deviating from it. McVay is a wizard, if Tavon was ready to do anything
professional, McVay would have done something. Tavon was not dependable in his route running.

I am willing to be wrong, because Tavon works hard and he was tough......so tell me...

Depends on what you mean by "it was Tavon."

1. Some people mean he was just simply not capable of anything more than what McV gave him to do. I don't accept that view because as I said, from 2014-16 he did do more things in the passing game. Not at the level of a pure receiver but still, enough to mix in with his running plays and gadgets.

2. If you mean he never really caught up with the McV offense and so was limited in that way in 2017, I agree...that was probably a factor. But that's not the same as saying he could never do those plays--he was just not up to speed on the offense in 2017.

It's general capability as a player v. specific knowledge of a specific offense, which are 2 different things.

BUT none of this either way has anything to do with McV's "wizardry." I was saying last spring before the season even started that McV may not be INTERESTED in using Tavon to Tavon's full capability. So the "McV is a wizard" thing has nothing to do with it. If he was not interested in altering his system to incorporate all the things Tavon could do, then, he wasn't interested (which yes I think is a big part of all this). And since McV did not draft Tavon there's no particular reason he should be interested. And when I was saying that LAST SPRING I was also saying it wasn't a complaint---McV just plain might not be interested.

It's a false dichotomy---this is not "is McV smart v. can Tavon play."

Yeah Tavon can do more in the passing game, we saw it. He did it. It's on record.

McV not being interested has nothing to do with his competence. That's not even remotely an issue.

But it's just as false to say TA couldn't do things because in fact he DID do them---regularly--in the years from 2014 to 2016.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/21/2018 08:34AM by zn.
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  The secrets of a Linebacker...

Rams43918May 18, 2018 08:46AM

  Sounds like....

NewMexicoRam323May 18, 2018 10:44AM

  Re: Sounds like....

Rams43334May 18, 2018 11:28AM

  Yea, that's what I mean

NewMexicoRam198May 18, 2018 02:45PM

  Rams won that game

zn227May 18, 2018 03:58PM

  Re: Rams won that game

NewMexicoRam223May 18, 2018 04:06PM

  enh

zn211May 18, 2018 04:34PM

  Well, I waited a full 4 hours to see if anybody would comment on the Tavon reference...

Rams43309May 18, 2018 12:04PM

  Patience Grasshopper!

Ramadune493May 18, 2018 01:26PM

  Re: Patience Grasshopper!

Rams43173May 18, 2018 02:23PM

  you "know" the wrong thing

zn214May 18, 2018 04:01PM

  Re: you "know" the wrong thing

Speedball89188May 18, 2018 04:53PM

  Re: McVay blames McVay...

dzrams148May 21, 2018 04:47PM

  Re: McVay blames McVay...

zn198May 21, 2018 04:55PM

  My Gosh Man

waterfield249May 22, 2018 09:09AM

  ZN: you "know" the wrong thing

Steve217May 21, 2018 08:11AM

  Re: ZN: you "know" the wrong thing

zn218May 21, 2018 08:25AM

  Re: ZN: you "know" the wrong thing

Steve367May 21, 2018 08:04PM

  Re: ZN: you "know" the wrong thing

zn222May 21, 2018 08:17PM

  frustrating video...

LMU93165May 22, 2018 03:34AM

  Re: frustrating video...

zn289May 22, 2018 04:27AM

  but...

LMU93158May 22, 2018 08:18AM

  Re: but...

zn291May 22, 2018 08:35AM

  he has not done "it" consistently

PHDram285May 22, 2018 08:52AM

  +1

LMU93157May 22, 2018 12:01PM

  Re: but...

LMU93249May 22, 2018 11:59AM

  Re: but...

zn194May 22, 2018 12:05PM

  Re: but...

PHDram146May 22, 2018 01:09PM

  Re: frustrating video...

Steve139May 22, 2018 08:32AM

  it has absolutely nothing to do with "trusting" McVay either way, that falsifies the issue

zn160May 22, 2018 08:42AM

  Re: it has absolutely nothing to do with "trusting" McVay either way, that falsifies the issue

Rams43159May 22, 2018 08:52AM

  More love to ZN

Steve181May 23, 2018 08:51PM

  you're assessing him as a receiver and I'm not

zn241May 23, 2018 10:09PM

  Re: you're assessing him as a receiver and I'm not

Steve148May 24, 2018 12:48AM

  Re: you're assessing him as a receiver and I'm not

zn275May 24, 2018 05:41AM

  If one thinks that mcvay is a good coach

PHDram172May 21, 2018 08:11PM

  Re: If one thinks that mcvay is a good coach

Rams43175May 22, 2018 06:25AM

  wish Tavon all the best in Dallas

PHDram154May 22, 2018 07:01AM

  Re: Again, McVay answered this...

dzrams148May 22, 2018 09:34AM

  Re: Again, McVay answered this...

zn179May 22, 2018 10:15AM

  thats a very PC answer

PHDram186May 24, 2018 06:39AM

  I saw that

NewMexicoRam214May 18, 2018 02:46PM

  I dunno....

DaJudge407May 18, 2018 03:25PM

  Awesome

joram289May 18, 2018 03:52PM

  It was fascinating. Thanks.

Saguaro322May 19, 2018 04:00AM

  here are more secrets: Rams t.o.p 35+ min

stlramz207May 22, 2018 12:12AM