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And the teams know this.... welcome to the new CBA that absolutely killed rookie contracts and the lucrative deals young players used to get.

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You're missing something.

I posted it before but if you missed it here it is.

NFL rules under the new CBA allow first round picks the option of asking to renegotiate after their 3rd year. Essentially it means asking for an extension.

Several players have already done it, and they got extensions as a result. So far Donald is the only player who opted for this option who did not get an extension (yet). Though he probably will.

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Teams giving highly-accomplished first-round picks extremely early extensions haven't exploited their leverage. Cowboys center Travis Frederick, Panthers inside linebacker Luke Kuechly, Cardinals cornerback Patrick Peterson and Texans defensive end J.J. Watt became the highest-paid player (by average year salary) at their respective positions. Each player received All-Pro honors in two of their first three years, just like Donald.

No team, not a single one, has locked a guy in to an underpaid rookie deal for 6 years.

Several teams have honored the 3 year option and extended players.

















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They did try to negotiate a deal early with him, reportedly for a very large amount of money if you don’t remember, but obviously he and his agent didn’t like the offer....and here we are today.

So, like I said, with the 5th year option and franchise tag teams can essentially control the rights to a first round draft pick for six years if the player doesn’t want to sign a deal early.

Teams have all the leverage and they use it..... the players only recourse is to agree to a deal, sit out and not get paid or play out the contract and hope to make it to free agency.

Yeah well just as reportedly the issue, according to Demoff, was structure not amount.

So which "reportedly" you want to believe is entirely on you. It has nothing to do with the reality, which we know nothing about.

And unless you know the actual amount offered, it's meaningless. Money for a DT of AD's caliber in 2018 ought to be fairly high--did the Rams offer meet those expectations? You don't know. So acting like you know doesn't address the real issues.

And these are the facts. AD exercised his 3rd year option as have other players. So far no other team has followed your preferred scenario. No team has just forced a player to remain underpaid on a rookie contract for a few years if that player asked for a 3rd year option.

So the truth is, we honestly have no idea where the offers stand...and if we act like we do means we're ignoring some very hard facts.


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Nobody is acting like they know.... we can only go by what has been reported

Point is is that it Doesn’t really matter what the offer was $2 or $200,000,000 the only fact is is that the Rams have tried to negotiate a deal and if he doesn’t like the deal he will still be a Ram for the next two or possibly three years because of the new CBA and what it allows teams to do.

Im confident a deal will get done........someday

My point was 2 things.

First contradictory things have been reported. So which do we choose and based on what?

Second the one report of the 2 about it being a large offer--that doesn't mean anything to me until I hear numbers, cause some journalist's idea of a big offer might not reflect the market realities. You seem to accept that one report at face value, which I simply don't--unless we hear figures, we actually do not know if it was a fair offer for Donald in the 2018 market. Besides, it's hearsay. No reporter was let in on the figures. It just looks like the Rams or someone associated with them said hey it was a big offer, and the reporter just took that at face value too. But that could just as easily be PR smoke as something real. (And that's leaving out the Demoff statement that it was structure not the amount.)

But also, your statement about negotiating cuts both ways. Donald has tied to negotiate. On the basis of no evidence, you seem to be claiming that the Rams are acting in good faith and Donald isn't. You may be inclined to believe that, but, in all honesty it has no real basis outside of that.

And finally. according to you, ie. in your version, the Rams are not going to sign him and will instead hold him to a massively underpaid rookie deal. If that hypothetical were true (and we don't know) that would make the Rams the only team that pulled that on a player in a similar situation (ie the situation being a 1st rounder under the new CBA exercising the 3rd year option). To me if that hypothetical were true, it would look bad and be bad. Teams should not treat their best once in a generation talent that way. In fact it's really telling to me that no other team did that under the same circumstances.



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