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March 31, 2018 11:17AM
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I once accepted Leonard Little as a Ram, despite his actions. There's nothing in the history of these 3 that gives me pause on a personal level.

Little was allowed by other Rams to drive away drunk from a party and of course he made that bad choice himself too.

That does not represent a character issue having to do with ongoing behavior. So it was not "actions" plural with him.

It was a one-time, and costly, terrible lapse of judgment. One that can happen to any of us if we don't take care of drinking and driving the right way.

If that had not happened no one would have ever been given any cause to doubt Little's professionalism on the field as a player. That's very minor compared to what happened that day. But still, since the context is a discussion of professional v. non-professional actions as a football player, worth noting.

Suh has regularly done those kinds of things on the field, though there are indications he's over that (in his own different way, same with Incognito).


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Little was arrested twice for DUI, and the second offence took place after the fatal crash.
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The 2nd was a wrongful arrest and that was proven decisively in a court of law. In other words, there was no actual proof Little was drinking in the 2nd arrest and the arresting officer was basically completely discredited.

So the allegation that he was arrested twice is not really true. The 2nd case, he was exonerated.

This was watched closely by ST.L reporters who were at the trial and emailed about it as it was occurring.







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Little admitted to drinking before driving, no matter his alcohol level or police procedure, after he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. I'm unsure what the argument is. At best, he demonstrated an extraordinary lack of judgment. Those were the actions I was referring to. What are you trying to convince me of?

I don't buy any of that. I think he was completely exonerated on the accusation of driving drunk. That's the only relevant thing to me. The rest is hyperbole and too easy hyperbolic judgments from the sidelines.

I am not trying to "convince you" of anything. Just as you are not trying to "convince me of" anything. . I am just putting down what I believe is the more accurate account of Little's actions.

And of course, again, Little was a professional on the field. Suh hasn't been. In one case a man had to atone for a terrible one-time mistake. We all judge that differently.

I was forgiving of Little because I saw him as having made a terrible one-time "there but for the grace of god" mistake off the field. If I really did think he had driven drunk again, I would not have been forgiving. As a fan, him being an important Rams starter only goes so far in my book.



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Leonard Little confessed to consuming alcohol before getting behind the wheel prior to the second DUI charge. He admitted it. That was the issue for me.
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  Knuckleheads and YOU?

RFL1178March 30, 2018 11:04AM

  right about here...with the guys we have now...

SunTzu_vs_Camus434March 30, 2018 11:08AM

  Re: right about here...with the guys we have now...

oldschoolramfan418March 30, 2018 11:17AM

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zn434March 30, 2018 11:17AM

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Ramkind444March 30, 2018 11:23AM

  Nuanced answer ... perfectly fine.

RFL422March 30, 2018 11:29AM

  I’m just fine with Talib, MP, and Suh...

Rams43300March 30, 2018 11:33AM

  Can I press you a bit?

RFL282March 30, 2018 12:21PM

  Re: Can I press you a bit?

Rams43299March 30, 2018 12:36PM

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dzrams269March 30, 2018 11:40AM

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zn276March 30, 2018 12:02PM

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dzrams346March 30, 2018 12:15PM

  HOW they win matters a ton to me.

Billy_T271March 30, 2018 11:45AM

  Re: HOW they win matters a ton to me.

IowaRam271March 30, 2018 11:52AM

  This is bogus, it has to do with

Blue and Gold242March 30, 2018 03:57PM

  Re: HOW they win matters a ton to me.

OzRam295March 30, 2018 12:21PM

  Re: HOW they win matters a ton to me.

Classicalwit274March 31, 2018 04:03AM

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Ramsdude407March 30, 2018 12:21PM

  Stones and me.

Saguaro355March 30, 2018 12:59PM

  Great Post Ram Brother......

GlacieRam262March 30, 2018 01:09PM

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Ramsdude257March 30, 2018 01:26PM

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Rams43250March 30, 2018 02:23PM

  Re: Great post!.... NM

dzrams245March 30, 2018 02:38PM

  Well said!! (nm)

RockRam249March 31, 2018 04:02AM

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leafnose256March 31, 2018 04:33AM

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RAMbler268March 31, 2018 10:35AM

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Speed_Kills263March 30, 2018 01:29PM

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zn270March 30, 2018 04:10PM

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BeachBoy257March 30, 2018 01:33PM

  The Uncertainty Principle

IowaRam300March 30, 2018 03:47PM

  My view is that fans will accept

Blue and Gold263March 30, 2018 03:51PM

  Re: My view is that fans will accept

Ramsdude318March 30, 2018 03:56PM

  And had Fish brought them in

Blue and Gold256March 30, 2018 04:01PM

  Fan hypocrisy ?

waterfield267March 30, 2018 04:13PM

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Blue and Gold276March 30, 2018 04:51PM

  Re: And had Fish brought them in

zn302March 30, 2018 04:15PM

  i dunno

wv ram283March 30, 2018 05:06PM

  I care

Suh-weet!263March 30, 2018 07:16PM

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9-99289March 30, 2018 11:26PM

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zn414March 31, 2018 03:43AM

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zn270March 31, 2018 07:09AM

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Speedball89286March 31, 2018 07:31AM

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9-99262March 31, 2018 09:55AM

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zn294March 31, 2018 10:07AM

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9-99385March 31, 2018 11:17AM

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zn258March 31, 2018 02:06PM

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Speedball89247March 31, 2018 10:33AM

  I really don't see the guys we picked up as knuckleheads....

roman18292March 31, 2018 03:42AM

  With Peters, it may be a one-time thing.

Blue and Gold334March 31, 2018 07:39AM

  Re: With Peters, it may be a one-time thing.

zn283March 31, 2018 07:48AM

  Always considered a knucklehead as a guy who can't be taught....

roman18250March 31, 2018 08:28AM

  Then you have an esoteric definition of the term

Blue and Gold250March 31, 2018 08:36AM

  A talented jerk......nm

roman18300March 31, 2018 08:59AM

  which is what everyone else means by "knucklehead"

zn262March 31, 2018 09:09AM

  Well....I don't.....

roman18253March 31, 2018 09:30AM

  Re: Well....I don't.....

zn264March 31, 2018 09:36AM

  Re: Well....I don't.....

roman18243March 31, 2018 10:07AM

  Re: Well....I don't.....

zn274March 31, 2018 10:08AM

  from 2012

zn267March 31, 2018 02:15PM

  Re: I see it similarly...

dzrams276March 31, 2018 10:25AM

  The Urban Dictionary definition of knucklehead, FWIW...

Rams43357March 31, 2018 12:00PM

  worth little... in NFL lexicon knucklehead:

Blue and Gold291March 31, 2018 12:18PM