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Re: That ain't all you said bro....

March 13, 2018 06:39PM
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dzrams
Well to be fair, last year at this time, you said that Donald would be good in this 3-4 but not nearly as good as he had been in the 4-3. I recall the name Jurrell Casey coming up as a comp....
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I also laughed when someone on radio suggested he could be a nose
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The only time I mentioned anything close to what you suggest is this
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"Donald, IMO, is better than Casey, but in terms of sacks, there is a possibility that his production will go down. But, if Rams win, no one will care, If our SAM and WILL players get 10 sacks each and the inside pressure caused by Donald helps them, then it's all and good."

I said POSSIBILITY that production will go down. It was in response to someone asking about things. A first blush it didn't seem like a scheme fit but almost immediately posted on the implications of the 3-4 and how it would be implemented, here is one from when Wade was rumored to be hired.
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So, I suggest you be fair and accurately post what I said rather than twist it.


"Jurrell Casey in tenny, he is in exact same situation, a 3-tech in a one-gap 3-4 and he makes great money but the things he does are more subtle and he doesn't put up the same kinds of sacks and tackles for loss as he did when they were in a 4-3.

Maybe Donald will be an exception, he has the talent for it, but I would doubt he'd be a 10-sack, 10-stuff guy in Phillips's defense."


http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,570634,570808#msg-570808

Here you were stating that Donald like Casey was going from a 4-3 to 3-4, that Casey had lesser stats b/c of the transition, and that AD could possibly not trend downward in production but you doubted that he would match his former production.

Of course, the most important part is the overall context of the thread being that you would accept a trade for him because he would presumably have lower production in Phillip's defense.

I was recalling what you said off of the top of my head, not intending to misrepresent you, but I do believe I captured the essence of what you were saying.

Since you obviously searched, it's interesting to me that you didn't find and quote from this post.

So, I suggest you be fair and accurately post your own words.

At any rate, my point wasn't about your doubts of Donald's fit so I'm not gonna spend much time arguing about the meaning of your words. Just know, I wasn't trying to twist them and don't think I did mis-characterize the spirit of them.

My point was to state that Donald was better, not worse. It was that greatness often supersedes scheme fit. The same could happen with Suh.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Maybe Suh not a terrible idea?

spagsbacker1086March 13, 2018 03:48PM

  Re: Maybe Suh not a terrible idea?

Classicalwit383March 13, 2018 03:56PM

  Wait...that was my post!

jemach366March 13, 2018 04:06PM

  Re: It will be a "Sign both" move.......Donald and Suh.

oldschoolramfan226March 19, 2018 05:30AM

  One can only hope...

jemach519March 19, 2018 05:34AM

  terrible idea, does not fit scheme

Blue and Gold352March 13, 2018 04:19PM

  Re: terrible idea, does not fit scheme

dzrams267March 13, 2018 04:43PM

  I said playing him as a 3-4 DE would be disaster

Blue and Gold584March 13, 2018 05:42PM

  Re: That ain't all you said bro....

dzrams271March 13, 2018 06:39PM

  And Donald wasn't a 10-sack, 10-stuff guy Attachments

Blue and Gold374March 13, 2018 06:51PM

  Re: If that's all you were focused on fine...

dzrams214March 13, 2018 07:05PM

  Do you see anything other than sacks and stuffs?.

Blue and Gold239March 13, 2018 07:12PM

  Based on what?

Blue and Gold264March 13, 2018 05:44PM

  Re: Based on what?

bigjimram21236March 13, 2018 06:10PM

  No reason to force anything

Blue and Gold237March 13, 2018 06:14PM

  Re: it's definitely not as foolish a thought as you say...

spagsbacker297March 14, 2018 12:29AM

  Aside from Dickerson lobbying for it what else is there?

Blue and Gold201March 14, 2018 12:40AM

  Re: Based on what?

dzrams240March 13, 2018 06:40PM

  No, it wasn't

Blue and Gold226March 13, 2018 06:57PM

  Re: It should have been, it was only 4 lines

dzrams239March 13, 2018 07:10PM

  Well, "better than ever" is an opinion I don't share

Blue and Gold236March 13, 2018 07:16PM

  Re: That's fair...I don't mind you having a different opinion...

dzrams378March 13, 2018 07:25PM

  Of course, anyone can be wrong

Blue and Gold224March 13, 2018 07:39PM

  Re: Of course, anyone can be wrong

dzrams248March 13, 2018 08:23PM

  Then why were his stuffs down?

Blue and Gold213March 13, 2018 08:52PM

  Re: Over a full season, who cares...

dzrams427March 13, 2018 09:45PM

  One last time Attachments

Blue and Gold214March 14, 2018 02:59PM

  Re: I responded to this last night, and both got deleted...Let's agree to disagree

dzrams170March 14, 2018 03:16PM

  I didn't see it

Blue and Gold167March 14, 2018 03:36PM

  Re: I know...that's b/c they both got deleted... Lol

dzrams223March 14, 2018 03:57PM

  That's fine

Blue and Gold227March 14, 2018 04:02PM

  hey B&G...a question....bout NT in Wade's defense....

SunTzu_vs_Camus288March 13, 2018 10:45PM

  No, a nose tackle in the base defense does not have

Blue and Gold324March 13, 2018 11:08PM

  interesting...thnx B&G

SunTzu_vs_Camus359March 13, 2018 11:17PM

  I think the times we were gashed

Blue and Gold244March 13, 2018 11:28PM

  it's only from stuff I read bout his rosters along with the guys you posted about....

SunTzu_vs_Camus359March 13, 2018 11:33PM

  Our LBs weren't physical enough...

jemach169March 14, 2018 05:01PM

  My observation was they got wired to blockers

Blue and Gold212March 14, 2018 06:43PM

  Zine It !!!

RamsFanSince69196March 14, 2018 05:20AM

  Re: definitely NOT a terrible idea...

spagsbacker296March 14, 2018 12:42AM

  No

Blue and Gold277March 14, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Maybe you need to give Snead a lesson?

spagsbacker223March 19, 2018 04:40AM

  C'mon man...

jemach229March 19, 2018 04:49AM

  Re: C'mon man...

spagsbacker224March 19, 2018 04:56AM

  I think signing Suh...

jemach200March 19, 2018 05:08AM

  Re: You're missing the point...

dzrams231March 19, 2018 05:34AM

  Go back to initial response...

jemach203March 19, 2018 05:41AM

  Re: Still missing the point...

dzrams215March 19, 2018 06:07AM

  Apparantly I misunderstood that "spare me" comment...

jemach187March 19, 2018 06:40AM

  Re: Thanks DZ...

spagsbacker201March 19, 2018 05:49AM

  Re:Question my fine feathered friend......

laram173March 19, 2018 06:12AM

  Re: Re:Question my fine feathered friend......

dzrams210March 19, 2018 07:40AM

  Re: Last hooray....

laram221March 19, 2018 08:00AM

  And in another thread I said I would ADMIT

Blue and Gold198March 19, 2018 12:15PM

  You really think Wade would OK Suh if he didn't have a plan for him?

RamBum240March 19, 2018 04:51AM

  Fantastic dialogue in this thread

no name206March 19, 2018 07:49AM

  the problem with him is his ill timing penalties

Rams_81222March 19, 2018 07:52AM