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January 17, 2018 11:17AM
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They use McVay a ton as the example of a guy that most teams would love to hire....

Nagy and McDaniels are those type of hires, but Just don't have the "it" factor nor the energy that McVay brings.



Good luck finding another McVay

Except radio guys talking about it does not make it a real league thing. That is. them saying teams want that does not make that a reality about what teams want. That's just radio guys speculating. Now if someone says "from what I have directly heard, people in the league are saying XYZ" then it might mean something.

And btw McDaniels does not meet the description. He's a 41 year old former head coach. Nagy who is closer to the description is 39. But that's not unique. The Eagles hired Dick Vermeil at 40. The Steelers hired Noll at 37. Dallas hired Landry at 36. The Browns hired Bellichick at 39. Oakland hired Shanahan the 1st at 36. The Steelers hired Tomlin at 35. Etc,. I could go on.

BTW in this thread Sun Tsu provided some evidence that the Bears themselves were talking that way.







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If you listened to Sirius you would know what I'm talking about..... These guys on Sirius like Kirwan, Brandt, Marvez, etc are very connected to what team are saying.


I used Nagy and McDaniels as examples of young offensive minded coaches.....none of them compare to McVay, but they might be the closest thing they can find to it.

No the fact that they are sometimes connected does not mean they ARE connected on THIS issue unless they directly say that's what the league is saying.

And Nagy is even closer to the guys I listed in terms of his age: Noll, Landry, Tomlin, Vermeil, Shanahan, etc .There's just nothing new in that.

McD is absolutely not like that because he is a former head coach and has been the coordinator of more than 1 team. The thing about McV is not just his age, it's his relative lack of experience. What that means is that the Rams took a leap of faith with him--basically, not only was he 31, he had only been a coordinator for 3 years. In that respect Nagy does come closest to meeting the description (just not in terms of age)...and of course we already have evidence that the TEAM was talking that way about him, so it was not just media guys speculating.


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  All these teams looking for the next McVay are going to be very disappointed...

roman18612January 16, 2018 07:09AM

  True. Just like teams are looking for the next Bellicheck and Walsh,

RockRam312January 16, 2018 08:02AM

  Here’s the thing about McVay...

Rams43302January 16, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: Here’s the thing about McVay...

David Deacon281January 16, 2018 10:10AM

  Re: Here’s the thing about McVay...

Rampage2K-287January 16, 2018 01:10PM

  Re: Here’s the thing about McVay...

oldschoolramfan176January 17, 2018 09:35AM

  what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

zn292January 16, 2018 01:25PM

  Re: what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

Ramsdude236January 16, 2018 03:56PM

  Re: what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

zn310January 16, 2018 04:11PM

  Re: what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

Ramsdude272January 16, 2018 04:26PM

  Re: what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

zn219January 16, 2018 04:34PM

  Re: what evidence do we have that teams are looking for a McVay?

Ramsdude201January 16, 2018 04:37PM

  I heard: "Teams looking for the next McVay" dozens of times.

guinnessram221January 16, 2018 10:22PM

  that's media opinion not evidence

zn216January 17, 2018 01:35AM

  Re: I heard: "Teams looking for the next McVay" dozens of times.

Classicalwit185January 17, 2018 10:49AM

  Maybe the young Bears' HC Nagy...

SunTzu_vs_Camus228January 17, 2018 04:48AM

  Re: Maybe the young Bears' HC Nagy...

zn197January 17, 2018 04:54AM

  they talk about it on Sirius .....

Rampage2K-220January 17, 2018 08:43AM

  except.

zn383January 17, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: except.

Rampage2K-216January 17, 2018 11:10AM

  Re: except.

zn200January 17, 2018 11:17AM

  Re: except.

Rampage2K-223January 17, 2018 11:29AM

  sorry but no dice old friend

zn236January 17, 2018 11:46AM

  McVay is a great example of why talent is overrated

RamUK202January 17, 2018 06:54AM

  I don't see it that way

zn202January 17, 2018 07:03AM

  Need Talent and Great Coaching, Manage the Cap

David Deacon221January 17, 2018 08:05AM

  I think you're having a parallel conversation

RamUK204January 17, 2018 08:16AM

  Re: I think you're having a parallel conversation

zn223January 17, 2018 08:40AM