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Re: value is important

September 13, 2017 06:05AM
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My guess is that the disappointment in Austin has a lot to do with trading up into the top 10 for him and then giving him a ton of money. That in conjunction with the production we've gotten for that investment.

Juxtapose Austin with a similar player like Tyreek Hill. Hill was a 5th round pick making a fraction of Austins salary. Their combine numbers were very similar. Hill has outperformed Austin but even if we say they're the same guy, it was a poor use of resources on the Rams part to acquire and retain Austin.

It remains to be seen if McVay will get equivalent production from Austin as Reid has gotten from Hill. If he does, then I for one will be less disappointed. But for now, disappointment is understandable.

I tend to think that kind of stuff is irrelevant, myself. The value thing. I think the way you do value is average it all out for every player taken instead of acting like one player walks around with his draft slot tattooed on his forehead. So I don;t mind Tavon's draft number because they also have a top-ranked safety taken in the 2nd round and a soon to be top WR in the 3rd round and Aaron Donald taken way too low for him (he should have been 1st). And I know he is not overpaid for what he was when he got that contract,and that was the guy of 2015. They paid for those 9 offensive TDs. Other guys in his pay range have done less (10 M range).

And the "let me torment myself" comparisons. I don't care about comparing Tavon to Hill. It doesn't matter. And besides if someone needs to do self-tormenting comparisons, how about this. There are some left tackles right now who are all young and right now better AND less expensive than Whitworth. Do I care? Not even a tiny bit. cool smiley

As it stands McVay has a guy in Tavon who we know can be explosive on the range of plays he is good at. So why wouldn;t he use him. I don't think McVay is so narrowly dogmatic that he would ignore the possibilities there. And McVay gives every indication of knowing what's what with TA---he is NOT obsessively forgetting the fact that Tavon is NOT a pure WR and so can't be used as one.

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An interesting analogy is what is done in the aerospace industry regarding systems performance of dynamic components.

There is an overall performance requirement in terms of specific attributes. For example, reliability. The overall reliability of an aircraft is a requirement that is often met, although many individual components exceed their allocated requirement while many others fall short, some woefully short.

Since the overall requirement is met are the customer and manufacturer satisfied? Not at all. There is constant effort to improve the bad performers. The idea is to seek excellence to achieve a world class product, constantly improving your processes and performance.

In comparison, we, the fans, are the customers, we may be satisfied with the overall product, the Rams offensive performance on the field, but that does not mean we are satisfied with the overpriced and weak performers. We are happy with the parts that exceed requirements, like Kupp, but we want improvement from those that don't, like Austin.

I do recall a program manager who responded to a full bird Colonel when the Col. complained about a certain dynamic component on the Black Hawk helicopter, by saying the aircraft met all the top level requirements so what are you complaining about. The program manager was reassigned the next day.

So, for me, its not irrelevant. Probably because of my culture and experiences.

That's you. It's not universal. Regardless how lengthy the explanation is for why your opinion is what it is, I just don't share it.

I don't care where Tavon was picked. To me it's meaningless. I look at the overall cumulative effect of their drafts, which includes a lot of good picks after the 1st round. So I don't walk around caring about where Tavon was picked, or caring about Tareek Hill.

So we will just have to just agree to disagree on this one.

Fair enough? cool smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/13/2017 06:06AM by zn.
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  use of the term "handful"

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  Re: use of the term "handful"

zn415September 12, 2017 09:02PM

  Austin's touches

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  Re: Austin's touches

zn407September 13, 2017 03:45AM

  more on this

zn298September 15, 2017 01:58PM

  I'm sure that McVay will use Tavon as best he can...

Rams43293September 13, 2017 05:06AM

  value is important

max323September 13, 2017 03:31AM

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max294September 13, 2017 06:00AM

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zn296September 13, 2017 06:05AM

  Re: value is important

max274September 13, 2017 06:13AM

  I'm gonna make this Tavon issue as simple as I possibly can...

Rams43307September 13, 2017 06:56AM

  Appreciate the simplicity.

Saguaro287September 13, 2017 07:11AM

  Re: Appreciate the simplicity.

Rams43292September 13, 2017 07:32AM

  Sooo... what?

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  In the English language that is called stealing

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  Re: Sooo... what?

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  Re: Sooo... what?

RAMSINCE ARNETT267September 13, 2017 10:18AM

  Let's stick to more objective data.

Saguaro344September 13, 2017 10:29AM

  spot on, Sag!!!

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  Re: handful

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  And that's the thing

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