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Re: sure he would have been as green regardless

August 22, 2017 07:16AM
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Speed_Kills
I mean we can't change that

But the coaching he received that first season is really what most have an issue with it. Perhaps he should have sat all of last year (ideally) but he didn't and the QB and performance ahead of him didn't justify him sitting all year.

A stronger offensive coaching staff may have made last year significantly better even given his obvious limitations.


A lot went wrong in 2016. Putting a rookie in an offense without a running game was going to be a disaster. And why wasn't there a running game? Well there are a lot of reasons for that. The OL never coalesced in 2016 even though by the end of 2015, it looked like it was going to. Gurley himself fell off. I already see him running differently than he did in 2016. There was really only one receiver--Britt. And so on.

So honestly, all these declarations about what the coaching was in 2016 strike me as mostly being mantras. And, hyperbolic at that. A lot went wrong in 2016. It does not reduce to one thing. For example Weinke gets good buzz. That gets forgotten.


And ONE OF THE THINGS that made 2016 what it was, was that yes Goff was THAT green.

When he makes it as a continuing year to year NFL caliber starter he will be the first college Air Raid system qb to ever do it.

You could see by watching him that he was not comfortable yet in a pro system. Maybe he would have been better off on a team with an OL and running game and weapons but I don't know how much better off because he was just. That. Green.

That's just honestly how I feel. Well to me and what I saw he most certainly WAS that green, so much so that it's a decisive part of the entire 2016 story. So to me anyone who doesn;'t reach that same conclusion is just wrong. Naturally they think I am wrong, but just as naturally, just like them, I stick by what I saw. So yes we just differ. And only means that we irreconcilably see one football thing completely differently. Which is fine. We;ll agree on other things. cool smiley

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2017 07:59AM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  BR: Goff and Rams Offense Stand a New Chance with Sean McVay

Speed_Kills803August 22, 2017 04:28AM

  Re: A lot of commonalities in that piece...

laram442August 22, 2017 04:35AM

  I wonder if this was written prior to the season

GreatRamNTheSky298September 26, 2017 06:52AM

  August 22nd. Just what I thought. nm

GreatRamNTheSky204September 26, 2017 06:53AM

  Stopped reading after the 1st paragraph.

RockRam342August 22, 2017 05:07AM

  Re: Stopped reading after the 1st paragraph.

laram448August 22, 2017 05:15AM

  Prescott was 62.8% after 4 years

max246August 22, 2017 07:09AM

  Re: you should continue reading

Speed_Kills571August 22, 2017 05:17AM

  well

zn245August 22, 2017 06:21AM

  Re: sure he would have been as green regardless

Speed_Kills210August 22, 2017 07:08AM

  Yup....

JamesJM198August 22, 2017 07:16AM

  Re: sure he would have been as green regardless

zn241August 22, 2017 07:16AM

  Re: yes we see it differently

Speed_Kills207August 22, 2017 07:21AM

  Can't speak for zn....

JamesJM211August 22, 2017 07:26AM

  Re: right because I take those other factors into account nm

Speed_Kills185August 22, 2017 07:40AM

  Re: Move on zn..... agree to disagree has been posted Nm

Anonymous User342August 22, 2017 07:48AM

  Goff's performance last season is on FISHER

hammer269August 22, 2017 05:07AM

  Re: Goff's performance last season is on FISHER

laram252August 22, 2017 05:09AM

  "Nice read"? Tough read. Don't get me wrong, Speed.

Saguaro250August 22, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: Is being a fan of Goff a requirement?

Speed_Kills503August 22, 2017 05:54AM

  I haven't, as yet, bought into the 'dumb it down for Goff" game plan...

JamesJM216August 22, 2017 05:58AM

  Re:great point about the preseason play calling.

hammer221August 22, 2017 09:06AM

  Re: Is being a fan of Goff a requirement?

Rams43225August 22, 2017 06:11AM

  Absolutely not. I shouldn't have even used the term "fan".

Saguaro217August 22, 2017 06:33AM

  Maybe...

JamesJM181August 22, 2017 06:41AM

  Re: I hear you..but I read it differently.

Speed_Kills229August 22, 2017 07:15AM

  Depends on what you mean by the "Montana" reference...

JamesJM188August 22, 2017 07:17AM

  Re: What I mean is

Speed_Kills171August 22, 2017 07:24AM

  Yeah, I get ya... for me...

JamesJM140August 22, 2017 07:31AM

  Reading what's said about McVay...

Saguaro235August 22, 2017 07:46AM

  Re: Wow

Speed_Kills177August 22, 2017 10:59AM

  Oh man, I don't know what to say now. lolololol.

Saguaro219August 22, 2017 11:08AM

  this guy does not like Goff one bit

zn212August 22, 2017 11:25AM