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August 21, 2017 12:27PM
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laram
I'm going to draw a parallel between the two, this is not a claim that Jared Goff is Austin Davis. Not saying that in the least!

But there are some similarities between what you saw Saturday night (in a preseason game) and what we saw for a few games with Austin Davis.

Because AD was limited, the OC called plays that he knew AD could handle and gave him easy reads.

Didn't ask him to read the entire field, instead gave him quarters. He made a lot of people think that AD was the second coming.

But I warned posters what would happen when the clock struck midnight for AD.

Defenses figured out what AD did well and started taking it away and we all know what happened from there.

I saw it Saturday night.

McVay did the samething with Goff. He gave Goff simple reads to give him confidence, one read let it go.

Last night McVay was setting up plays beautifully.

You could see how he was setting up plays to make it easier for Goff. Flats, outs, slants, shallow crosses all plays setting up the next.

I pointed it out in the forum before the TD to Kupp, that McVay was setting up over the top.

Although I called it for Sammy, McVay called a misdirection play which allowed Kupp to slip out the back door..

You could see the progression.

I would wager that on 95% of Goff's throws he went to his first read.

Can Goff go off script?

How many good coaches do just that for a young QB? Are you saying Dak Prescott is just a genius and his coaches script nothing for him?

We will soon find out because defenses are gonna make him.

Oakland didn't blitz, ran very vanilla coverages and their coverage players SUCK! They'll have to outscore people.

All things considered I was pleased with Goff's performance but far from convinced.

16-18 under 10 yards should caution you as well.

Well the Raiders must have to blitz because Mack got in there only once. Yes we know the Raiders defense was masked by their offense last season. As for short dump passes, many WCO teams do just that. Goff is young and the more he plays the more deep balls you will see.

Here is every one of Goff's throws if interested.

video: [youtu.be]

A good coach puts his team and his QB in position to be successful. Which you can do for a QB if you know something about offense. Fisher knew nothing and neither did Boras. I bet if you look at Dak Prescotts games last season you will see that Garrett and Linehan did the same thing for him. I think Carr was probably done the same way in his 1st couple years. It makes sense, doesn't it?

As for Austin Davis, keep in mind who his head coach was and understand that was Goff's head coach last year. Who knows what Davis could have done with a McVay coaching him. I know this Pete Carroll who knows a thing or two about QBs liked what he saw and signed AD.

Austin Davis lost his confidence in the Cardinals game late in the season and Fisher could not help him.

BTW the Rams are not the only team that had Goff rated up there at one or two. Remember the Cowboys reluctantly took Prescott. They wanted Lynch.

I find nothing unusual or indicative of anything for a good coach to script it so his QB succeeds.

Grits
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Jared Goff and Austin Davis...

laram1297August 21, 2017 12:00PM

  So let me get this straight.

RFL398August 21, 2017 12:13PM

  post-interpretation.

wv ram197August 22, 2017 01:52PM

  Was interesting watching Goff's head...

JamesJM338August 21, 2017 12:16PM

  The play that McVay discussed in detail ...

RFL461August 21, 2017 12:21PM

  Was that to me?

JamesJM256August 21, 2017 12:22PM

  LOL. No Jimmy--not you.

RFL233August 21, 2017 12:26PM

  Re: Jared Goff and Austin Davis...

The_Zone334August 21, 2017 12:21PM

  So, let me ask you a question

GreatRamNTheSky268August 21, 2017 12:27PM

  Re: So, let me ask you a question

RFL217August 21, 2017 12:33PM

  Re: So, let me ask you a question

GreatRamNTheSky293August 21, 2017 12:37PM

  I think some people aren't reading your bolded section in the first line.

Saguaro340August 21, 2017 12:30PM

  Well, I DID read the first line as it happens.

RFL322August 21, 2017 12:39PM

  It's good to have varied opinions expressed. This is not blasphemy. nm.

Saguaro230August 21, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: Then you don't understand the post RFL...NM

laram227August 21, 2017 01:01PM

  Re: Jared Goff and Austin Davis...

Classicalwit301August 21, 2017 12:32PM

  Not even remotely close

TonyHunter87277August 21, 2017 12:38PM

  Re: I'm comparing the way they were handled...

laram278August 21, 2017 01:02PM

  Re: I'm comparing the way they were handled...

TonyHunter87234August 21, 2017 01:23PM

  Re: Thanks...NM

laram367August 21, 2017 01:29PM

  Is Jameis Winston being spoon-fed in Tampa?

The_Bad_Guy430August 21, 2017 04:05PM

  Agreed Bad Guy Agreed

GreatRamNTheSky290August 21, 2017 06:14PM

  might want to watch it again.....

Rampage2K-239August 21, 2017 01:30PM

  I find this reasonable and helpful analysis, Laram

ArizonaRamFan244August 21, 2017 02:15PM

  Re: Absolutely and I never try to ARF..

laram243August 21, 2017 02:24PM

  Re: Absolutely and I never try to ARF..

ArizonaRamFan212August 21, 2017 03:09PM

  Re: Did you read this?

laram363August 21, 2017 03:16PM

  I did (edited)

ArizonaRamFan324August 21, 2017 03:24PM

  Re: Nah...

laram270August 21, 2017 06:44PM

  I think "negative" can mean 2 different things

ArizonaRamFan191August 22, 2017 12:33PM

  Re: Fair enough...NM

laram286August 22, 2017 12:52PM

  Re: I find this reasonable and helpful analysis, Laram

GreatRamNTheSky289August 21, 2017 06:16PM

  That is bottom line

Blue and Gold252August 21, 2017 06:54PM

  I'm a glass half full type fan........Seeing in believing

GreatRamNTheSky179August 22, 2017 11:42AM

  I will say this about the difference between AD and Goff

zn342August 21, 2017 03:28PM

  I have to add

zn298August 21, 2017 06:44PM

  Re: I have to add...

laram299August 21, 2017 07:05PM

  Re: I have to add...

zn396August 21, 2017 07:12PM

  Oh, yeah ...

The_Bad_Guy299August 21, 2017 03:58PM

  Re:Did he break through or is he possibly on the way?

laram301August 21, 2017 04:06PM

  Are you asking me ...

The_Bad_Guy293August 21, 2017 04:20PM

  Amen!........nm

GreatRamNTheSky182August 21, 2017 06:22PM

  Goff performed as we all expected of a number 1

GreatRamNTheSky200August 21, 2017 06:20PM

  Re: Jared Goff and number Twelve & number Sixteen

Anonymous User309August 21, 2017 06:57PM

  I know where you are going and you are not putting Goff down

Los Angeles Lenny212August 21, 2017 07:24PM

  Re: Not in the least Lenny...

laram452August 21, 2017 07:28PM

  Hmm.............

GreatRamNTheSky275August 22, 2017 07:49AM

  Re: Jared Goff and Austin Davis...

Steve288August 21, 2017 07:39PM

  laram is a Ram fan, who has been very positive about McVay and the new direction.

Saguaro380August 21, 2017 12:39PM

  Re: laram is a Ram fan, who has been very positive about McVay and the new direction.

TonyHunter87315August 21, 2017 12:58PM

  Re: laram is a Ram fan, who has been very positive about McVay and the new direction.

TonyHunter87367August 21, 2017 01:04PM

  Let him speak up

RamUK204August 22, 2017 04:58PM