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Try to see this team for what it is.

August 13, 2017 10:20AM
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jemach
It looked like a 2916 rerun to me.

I hear this refrain in scores, maybe hundreds of posts.

It is completely understandable. But I think it is imperceptive.

As I argue in my main post for this thread (link), I perceive a completely different team, doing things completely differently.

There were some specific results that had what I term superficial similarities to the past. For example, your remark: "I saw Gurley getting hit in the backfield."

OK, Gurley got hit in the backfield in the opening of the 1st PS game of the year. There's nothing new about a running game stalling as the PS opens. Offense are almost ALWAYS way behind defenses early, especially in the running game. Making running plays work is always a very tricky, intricate thing. I can remember playing on OLs in HS and small college that struggled early and warmed up. Indeed, one often sees early stops in games that give way to later running success. The best running teams run best in the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Furthermore, as we opened the game last night, NOTHING had yet been done to drive teams off the LOS. Teams have swarmed our LOS without fear for more than a score of games. And, as Marshall said in his commentary, DAL was playing 8 up and daring us to throw.

So, when you say you saw Gurley hit in the backfield, let's put that in context. You saw him run 4 times in the first series of PS in a new scheme with 3/5 new OL and no chance to get things rolling through multiple reps. That in and of itself is very limited evidence of anything. Hell, Marshall used to get hammered early in PS and it meant nothing.

The question is, what does the evidence of Gurley getting hit really add up to? If you see that sole fact as evidence of 2016 noch einmal, well, then you're back in Battered Fan Syndrome mode.

But, for me, that was not what was going on. Our offense played together and functioned well. The scheme repeatedly shook receivers free and we generally made catches and moved chains. DAL made some plays because they are a talented team, and we coughed the ball up. We did not kill ourselves with penalties. If you looked at what that offense was doing all night, whoever was in there, and saw 2016 again ... well, you were seeing something different from what I saw.

Look, I am just registering a different way of seeing things. I can't talk anyone into seeing things differently and I don't mean to try. Assuming this team is on the road to something better, it will take time for it to become unambiguously evident. It will take time to earn respect in people's eyes, including in the eyes of beaten up Ram fans. That's all as it should be.

I would just suggest one thing. Try to see this team in itself. Fisher is gone and 2016 is history. Many of the players are the same and many aren't. But don't just cherry pick a couple of bad facts and say "2016 again." Look at the whole of what you are seeing on the field. Look at the team's intensity, its discipline, its sharpness of execution. Look at how it conducts itself and the identity it is forging. And try to see beyond specific results--developing competence consists of many factors which may be improving while one breaks down.

Consider our lone touchdown. It looks bad to say, "We scored 1 time and that was a lucky fall on a fumble." Woods' mistake looks bad. And it is.

But, consider all the things that we were doing right after that muffed punt. The conception and execution of the play were superb. Woods ducked under those other receivers and Goff sharply threw him a dart that took him to the threshold of the GL. Go back and look at that play, freezing the fram as the fumble begins--just the chain moving throw.

Then ask yourself ... is this 2016 again?
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

JamesJM1056August 13, 2017 03:09AM

  "I saw improvement everywhere"...

wv ram426August 13, 2017 04:14AM

  But not the right side of the OL

max399August 13, 2017 04:59AM

  i saw an nfl team

wv ram497August 13, 2017 05:48AM

  You got lucky....

JamesJM281August 13, 2017 05:52AM

  fisher bashing...

wv ram249August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  Amen, amen, amen!

RFL239August 13, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: Amen, amen, amen!

zn226August 13, 2017 10:32AM

  i want my fisher-basher button

wv ram215August 13, 2017 12:43PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button

zn209August 13, 2017 12:58PM

  3-eyed Ram

wv ram207August 13, 2017 01:16PM

  Re: 3-eyed Ram

zn216August 13, 2017 01:49PM

  Re: i want my fisher-basher button Attachments

VANRAM208August 13, 2017 02:55PM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

zn539August 13, 2017 04:32AM

  I thnk you are right Jimmy

GreatRamNTheSky328August 13, 2017 04:43AM

  Question...

jemach262August 13, 2017 05:26AM

  Re: Question...

zn243August 13, 2017 05:51AM

  Try to see this team for what it is.

RFL221August 13, 2017 10:20AM

  Thank you. nm

Saguaro209August 13, 2017 10:28AM

  You understand blocking?

JamesJM225August 13, 2017 10:34AM

  LOL. Well, I understand blocking circa 1972!

RFL220August 13, 2017 10:52AM

  Re: Question...

dzrams202August 13, 2017 06:29PM

  ++1....nm

Arkansas Ram331August 13, 2017 05:14AM

  ZN I think some people are expecting dominance, or flashy attack style passing.

six2stack254August 13, 2017 05:18AM

  dropped balls, fumbles, bad oline play

ferragamo79332August 13, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

oldschoolramfan240August 13, 2017 05:49AM

  Re: Expectations.... maybe I misread everyone....

Rams43542August 13, 2017 06:05AM

  On Mannion ...

RFL219August 13, 2017 11:01AM

  +1 (nm)

zn189August 13, 2017 11:04AM

  Re: On Mannion ...

Rams43219August 13, 2017 12:09PM

  How much of it was on Mannion?

RFL202August 13, 2017 12:29PM

  Re: How much of it was on Mannion?

Rams43203August 13, 2017 12:35PM

  Backup OL and fumbles

LMU93261August 13, 2017 06:11AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

zn260August 13, 2017 06:19AM

  Nice analysis ZN

RounderRick227August 13, 2017 06:33AM

  Re: Backup OL and fumbles

bigjimram21224August 13, 2017 08:21AM

  defensive starters--snap counts

zn218August 13, 2017 10:02AM

  Passing game is improved

Rams_81245August 13, 2017 09:04AM

  I loved it.

RFL255August 13, 2017 09:50AM

  amen (nm

wv ram277August 13, 2017 09:53AM

  I saw the same thing.

GlacieRam386August 13, 2017 10:33AM

  I agree and that was the perfect way to put it

Rams_81289August 13, 2017 11:36AM

  Agreed

LBRamsFan207August 14, 2017 09:13AM

  Comparing it to the last game of the season last year...

Atlantic Ram232August 13, 2017 12:30PM